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Jeffrosproto

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I was floored when I saw over two gigabits down. This is actually inside a fourth floor hotel room, none the less (I guess mmwave still works thru glass). Good thing uwb doesn’t count toward data usage on Verizon.
 

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cwosigns

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Since it’s right across the street, I can get UWB if I’m near a window. So I can download large files while inside. But my wifi is good enough for my needs at home.
Verizon 5G Home Internet became available at my location about a month ago (tower is right across the street). I jumped on it as soon as I received the email, and I'm very pleased with the results. My apartment complex is prewired for AT&T, but maxed out at 50 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up. This is a big improvement.
 

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piattj

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iPhone 12 Pro
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Location: Chester
 

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MacBH928

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I was floored when I saw over two gigabits down. This is actually inside a fourth floor hotel room, none the less (I guess mmwave still works thru glass). Good thing uwb doesn’t count toward data usage on Verizon.

The antenna is probably very close, the upload speeds are slow imo though.
 

macbookm1airlover

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Verizon 5G UW on an iPhone 12 Pro Max...Charlotte, NC on a business trip. In the downtown area.
 

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BustAGroove

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Post your 5G Speedtest results here and we’ll try to get a consensus of who is getting what 5G speeds.

Please include:

iPhone model: 12 v 12 Pro
Carrier: AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon or other
City tested in.

and if you have Verizon, whether it was 5G Nationwide or 5G Ultrawide

Thanks.
iPhone 12 Pro Max
AT&T
Pasadena, CA
200.4 down - 26.4 up
 

iGeek2019

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Derby, UK

5G coverage is limited in the areas I frequent so I don’t know if I would be able to achieve faster upload/download speeds.
 

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IBMlover

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Why is the upload speed always so poor (in comparison to download) with 5G? Is there any specific reason for that?
With all my 4G contracts I had always about same down- and upload speeds.
 

cwosigns

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Why is the upload speed always so poor (in comparison to download) with 5G? Is there any specific reason for that?
With all my 4G contracts I had always about same down- and upload speeds.
I think with the current iteration of 5G for Verizon, the download speeds are 5GUWB but the upload speeds are either 5G (not UWB) or 4G/LTE.
 
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jay968

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I posted in another thread about this...
Iphone 12, T-Mobile, Southern California.
At my house I regularly get over 450mbps down and around 60mbps up. I do make sure to turn off WiFi so I am not mistakenly measuring a WiFi signal instead of a cell signal.
If I go anywhere away from my house, I am lucky to get even 5mbps down and data use on 5g is pretty much unusable.
No idea why this is happening, but I have given up on using 5g and set my phone to use only LTE.
Guess it just may take another year or 2 for 5g to get to a usable place, but so far I'd have to say it's totally not worth the effort.
 

ecschwarz

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I posted in another thread about this...
Iphone 12, T-Mobile, Southern California.
At my house I regularly get over 450mbps down and around 60mbps up. I do make sure to turn off WiFi so I am not mistakenly measuring a WiFi signal instead of a cell signal.
If I go anywhere away from my house, I am lucky to get even 5mbps down and data use on 5g is pretty much unusable.
No idea why this is happening, but I have given up on using 5g and set my phone to use only LTE.
Guess it just may take another year or 2 for 5g to get to a usable place, but so far I'd have to say it's totally not worth the effort.
Not counting mmWave sites (since there's only a few spots that have them), T-Mobile uses two different bands for 5G, n41 (2500MHz) and n71 (600MHz). Just like LTE bands, different carriers get different slices of spectrum and the narrower, the quicker things like congestion happen. The speeds at your house look like n41 (T-Mobile is marketing this as "Ultra Capacity 5G"), which is slowly being installed everywhere as a result of the Sprint merger. n71 is what T-Mobile had been deploying for awhile and is being marketed as "Extended Range 5G" and basically covers well, but isn't going to be much faster than LTE in practice. Throw in congestion and/or backhaul issues and it's easy to get single-digit speeds.

I'm in an area where T-Mobile has n41 on almost all the towers and unless you're in the fringe areas getting kicked over to n71 (or LTE), speeds are typically 150Mbps+.
 

jay968

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Apr 2, 2019
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Yes, I have seen that at my house, T-Mobile is using n41. While I can understand that this band is providing the better speeds, what I don't understand is why the area around my house is the only area where I am seeing use of this band. This is southern California and I literally have not seen speeds anywhere like what I get at my house. I cannot believe that this is the only area where band 41 is being used.
 
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ecschwarz

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Yes, I have seen that at my house, T-Mobile is using n41. While I can understand that this band is providing the better speeds, what I don't understand is why the area around my house is the only area where I am seeing use of this band. This is southern California and I literally have not seen speeds anywhere like what I get at my house. I cannot believe that this is the only area where band 41 is being used.
Yeah, that's a bit odd. I know when they rolled it out in some parts of where I live, it was really scattershot before filling in and surprisingly not in the areas where you'd expect first. Someone used to unofficially map it, but I've since lost the link and think it stopped being updated last fall anyway.
 

jay968

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I did find one spot today about 15 miles from here where it's also very good. So who knows. Maybe it's just going to take awhile.
 

iMas70

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I’m disappointed with 5G speeds that I see. They are barely faster than what I was getting with LTE. My home WiFi is much faster. This is in the RI/MA area.
 

ecschwarz

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I’m disappointed with 5G speeds that I see. They are barely faster than what I was getting with LTE. My home WiFi is much faster. This is in the RI/MA area.
What carrier do you have? It really depends on who, as the big three have implemented things quite a bit differently to start off with.
 

ecschwarz

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I have AT&T. The best I’ve tested is 159/53.6 Mbps.
Ah, I think AT&T is doing DSS in a few areas areas (like Verizon is doing everywhere) where spectrum is shared between LTE and 5G. The issue with that is that there's not as many carrier aggregation options (and AT&T has a lot of different bands/frequencies they operate on - combine a handful and you get pretty fast LTE speeds). There's other places that AT&T is doing decided n5 (the band that was previously used for 2G service). Obviously if you hit a mmWave site, you'll notice the difference (AT&T brands this as 5G+).

It's a weird adjustment period, but not terribly surprising at the moment—kind of like the early days of LTE where they just had one or two LTE bands for AT&T and that was it.

Verizon is only doing DSS and mmWave and the DSS areas, branded as 5G Nationwide, tend to be in the range of slower LTE speeds.

T-Mobile is approaching it a little differently by using some of their n71 band for range and n41 (the spectrum they got from Spring) for speed. n71 seems to be more like the LTE speeds you're used to on AT&T, while n41 can get 400Mbps+.

A lot of this will continue to change as Verizon and AT&T deploy their C-Band spectrum that they recently acquired, too.

Personally, I don't think there's a right/wrong way that anyone is implementing 5G, it's most trying to approach things with the spectrum available and eventually helping with congestion/capacity issues. Unfortunately, the marketing machine for each carrier has given people different expectations.
 

Zaft

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Jun 16, 2009
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In NYC with T-Mobile I get anywhere from 250-600mb/s down.

I guess it’s more LTE Plus speed but it’s still very fast.

the fastest I’ve gotten is 707 down.
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cbautis2

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Surprised to find out that Apple Store at The Grove LA actually has an indoor Verizon 5G UWB though it’s slower than the outdoor ones from KTown

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