Just read the excerpt. He seems like a nice man because he was apparently raising a kid with a woman even though he didn’t want it. People are angry because he is not interested in most women in silicon valley?????
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Apple Fires Newly Hired Ex-Facebook Product Manager Following Revelations of Past Misogynistic Comments
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I trust Apple HR over any amount of media including this place any day of the week...they have full access to him and his history.
Oh, right. Hail the leader.
Actions like this just shift the conversaton from one extreme to the other.
In he past women did get treated poorly and that needed to change. But now even if you tell the truth, people find a ay to hate on it, if it's an inconvenient truth.
Apple does have gender and minority hiring quotas now. Which is disappointing as this only breeds toxicity within the workplace. Apple will not change as they are proud of having these toxic quotas.
This sounds like they hired him and then he did his job in a way that doesn't gel with Apple's left wing agenda so they found an different excuse to fire him so it would not be "whoopsie we hired someone who is not on the left which further shows our political bias"
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In he past women did get treated poorly and that needed to change. But now even if you tell the truth, people find a ay to hate on it, if it's an inconvenient truth.
Apple does have gender and minority hiring quotas now. Which is disappointing as this only breeds toxicity within the workplace. Apple will not change as they are proud of having these toxic quotas.
I agree with you. Why hire him then fire him? It just feels like a political statement. If Apple really wanted to know his online history they would have researched it when he was a shortlisted candidate for the job before they hired him.
This sounds like they hired him and then he did his job in a way that doesn't gel with Apple's left wing agenda so they found an different excuse to fire him so it would not be "whoopsie we hired someone who is not on the left which further shows our political bias"
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I do not see anything wrong with that statement and it’s probably true. If it was false Facebook and other companies would not be around.
totally disagree, this was a terrible job by apple. If they really took it serious they would have done the due diligence at the corporate level not be, for lack of a better word, woke to it by lower level employees.
The right is certainly doing its share as well, with voter suppression, laws designed to stifle speech, telling business owners they must fall inline with the party line, etc. For all their supposed hatred of communism they seem to like its approach quite well.
Read the Black Book of Communism and see why.. btw, I am from the former USSR and still live there to this day in the Republic of Ukraine. It’s not a paradise.
Yea, the labels matter less to some than getting the outcomes they want.
It will no doubt take a long time to undo all the damage done from decades of communist rule. Ideally the Ukraine will get into the EU which would help them a lot, IMHO. As the Breadbasket of Europe, along with steel, it has a lot of potential.
That's not the way I read that statement. You're making a logical leap to project that onto him, and choosing to interpret it as such. Self righteous indignation.
That's a bunch of Special Snowflakes wanting Apple to make them a safe space, free from anything that might possibly offend them.
You should be fired for misandry if we're following Apple's logic. See how I'm choosing to ignore the context of your statement here?
He's only partially wrong in that he's limiting the scope of his assessment to Bay Area women. I have a friend that lives in the Bay Area. I still remember a conversation we had, where he was try to Bay-splain to me how superior Bay Area people are, vs say people in the Midwest. I got a good chuckle out of it. South Park nailed it, as usual.
That and he was a lying sack of crap who encouraged his followers to hate everyone that didn’t look like them. But other than that, a real stand up guy.
Communist tyranny is when the government tells you you cannot say something or that you need to act a certain way. These are private people and businesses deciding who they want to hire. I don't think you're saying that the government should force companies to hire certain employees.
If the "special snowflakes" are the ones making Apple rich, Apple is smart to be listening to them
I agree. And let’s not kid ourselves here, Steve Jobs did a lot of bad things with his family and was not nice. I wonder if he would be canceled in today’s society.
Probably not - there are certain people who can evidently do or say anything and are exempt from backlash. Dr Dre has been mentioned several times in this thread. Now compare the comments quoted from the book with this comment from him:
Where was the outrage when he became associated with Apple?
Dr Dre has also acknowledged the mistakes of his past, apologized, and has tried to do better. That's the part that gets glossed over. The late Senator Byrd did some pretty bad things in his past, like joining the Klan. He apologized for his past, admitted it was a mistake, and then changed his ways. What I'm hearing here is that people want to be able to continue saying things that others find offensive, and then be immune from any pushback.
In the past, casual racism, sexism, homophobia etc were tolerated because many people felt they couldn't speak out. That has changed. How you speak in your home, among friends, or at your place of worship is one thing. How you speak at your workplace is another.
I will admit that Apple HR and/or executive leadership failed on this one. He shouldn't have been offered a position in the first place. And yes, some of the things Steve said back in the day would not be tolerated today. It's been over a decade since he passed.
In the past, casual racism, sexism, homophobia etc were tolerated because many people felt they couldn't speak out. That has changed. How you speak in your home, among friends, or at your place of worship is one thing. How you speak at your workplace is another.
I will admit that Apple HR and/or executive leadership failed on this one. He shouldn't have been offered a position in the first place. And yes, some of the things Steve said back in the day would not be tolerated today. It's been over a decade since he passed.
Good to know that You and many others here are seeing through the bs of modern pc.
Did he apologize to his estranged wife who says he abused her multiple times (after his apology)? How about an apology for getting his daughter into USC "all on her own" (after his $70 million donation - remarkably other people went to jail for this very thing)? How about for his blatant copyright infringement for his songs?
This guys entire life has been filled with one thing after another, yet he appears untouchable.