Dr. Dre? He slapped Dee Barnes.What did he say that was so terrible?
So it’s ok when it’s against someone you don’t like. Got it.That and he was a lying sack of crap who encouraged his followers to hate everyone that didn’t look like them. But other than that, a real stand up guy.
You bet he would. Lots of eyes wide closed on the religious left.I agree. And let’s not kid ourselves here, Steve Jobs did a lot of bad things with his family and was not nice. I wonder if he would be canceled in today’s society.
He did a lot more than slap Dee Barnes.Dr. Dre? He slapped Dee Barnes.
“He [Dr. Dre] picked me up by my hair and my ear and smashed my face and body into the wall,” she said. “Next thing I know, I’m down on the ground and he’s kicking me in the ribs and stamping on my fingers. I ran into the women’s bathroom to hide, but he burst through the door and started bashing me in the back of the head.”
When Dr. Dre heard the track, he turned up at the awards ceremony party, where he punched Tairrie “twice — once in the mouth and once in the eye. He hit me like Tyson, but I took it — I don’t know how.”
But he said he’s sorry! ? ?He did a lot more than slap Dee Barnes.
Then there was Tairrie B:
And then there was Michel'le - he broke her nose.
Dr Dre has also acknowledged the mistakes of his past, apologized, and has tried to do better. That's the part that gets glossed over. The late Senator Byrd did some pretty bad things in his past, like joining the Klan. He apologized for his past, admitted it was a mistake, and then changed his ways. What I'm hearing here is that people want to be able to continue saying things that others find offensive, and then be immune from any pushback.
In the past, casual racism, sexism, homophobia etc were tolerated because many people felt they couldn't speak out. That has changed. How you speak in your home, among friends, or at your place of worship is one thing. How you speak at your workplace is another.
I will admit that Apple HR and/or executive leadership failed on this one. He shouldn't have been offered a position in the first place. And yes, some of the things Steve said back in the day would not be tolerated today. It's been over a decade since he passed.
Of course.So what? Never seen an incompetent man in tech? They’re ten a penny.
The problem with whataboutism, is that it doesn’t take in to account any of the finer points of a discussion. It’s a very similar vein as to when people say things like ‘why don’t we have a white lives matter… blah blah’ when speaking of Black Lives Matter. To say that it’s missing the point is an gross understatement.Of course.
Now let's swap "women" with "men" in the quote from the petitioners. How many of those 2000 people would sign that?
Western society: we support and give the right to people to fully express themselves and the right to freedom of speech
also western society: we will banish and punish all those who resist the popular ideology in society until he gives in to our system of beliefs.
Newspeak by ministry of truth if you ask me.
If you don’t want your comments public, maybe don’t put them in a book?And this ladies and gentlemen why you should care for your privacy and never let social media and corporates harvest your data and store it forever to have a free mail account or a search engine
lol, she wouldn’t give a crap. You people are so presumptuous in that you believe everyone toes your social justice death line. Here’s a tip: most people don’t care, not least a 75 year old woman. Hahaha!And I suspect you personally are a treat who is well qualified to make such a statement about all women in an entire state. It’s absolutely disgusting of you to make such a sweeping generalisation about women. You should be ashamed of yourself and you should look deep and hard at what gives you the right to say as such. Hint- this is not freedom of speech, this is a deep seated disdain for females.
Don’t forget, you yourself said:
”…his assessment of women in the Bay Area and California in general is spot on - maybe such a vacuous group of people should take their faces out of their mocha lattes and open a book or two”
What on earth would your mother say if you spoke to her with that tongue?
Do all societies agree some opinions are not just different but clearly wrong and dangerous? Of course. If you promote violence, your words are to be considered violent too and you must be punished. Some opinions can't be tolerated. If someone thinks black people are inferior and says it on the internet, I'm very glad if he gets fired.I don't think an environment is unsafe where you are at risk of someone being rude or having opinions that you find offensive.
If a society is to be "diverse" and "tolerant" then it should allow diversity of opinions and be tolerant of those who's opinions we may consider different to the norm.
If a white man kills a black man, it’s hate crime. If a black man kills a white man, it’s racial justice! Right? Since slavery and stuff? We should champion two criminal justice systems! Fair and just!The problem with whataboutism, is that it doesn’t take in to account any of the finer points of a discussion. It’s a very similar vein as to when people say things like ‘why don’t we have a white lives matter… blah blah’ when speaking of Black Lives Matter. To say that it’s missing the point is an gross understatement.
Men, specifically white ones, have been at the top of the pile in society for a long long time. Controlling and suppressing everything that isn’t them. This includes women.
So to answer your question, the reason a petition like that wouldn’t have taken off so drastically, is because there doesn’t need to be a mass discussion on how to protect men against casual abuse in the same way there does for women.
Sure all men have problems, but they’re very much personal ground level problems, not problems to a mass scale which affect you simply because you’re a man - as it does with women, people of colour etc.
The simple fact this needs explaining is petrifying.
Showing ignorance doesn’t promote understanding of an opposing argument.If a white man kills a black man, it’s hate crime. If a black man kills a white man, it’s racial justice! Right? Since slavery and stuff? We should champion two criminal justice systems! Fair and just!
So when BLM is precisely protesting "two criminal justice systems", you are advocating two speech standards, one for men and one for women. See the irony?Showing ignorance doesn’t promote understanding of an opposing argument.
If a white man kills a black man, it’s hate crime.
If a black man kills a white man, it’s racial justice! Right?
There is no irony. There is just you missing the point.So when BLM is precisely protesting "two criminal justice systems", you are advocating two speech standards, one for men and one for women. See the irony?
Lol you wrote that as if it’s some sort of gotcha. HahahaSo it’s ok when it’s against someone you don’t like. Got it.
Oh and by the way, he received multiple awards from people that “didn’t look like him”. Just ask Oprah, Sharpton, and Jackson. But that’s when he was a democrat….
You bet he would. Lots of eyes wide closed on the religious left.
The problem with whataboutism is people don’t want to defend their insane views when they smack up against the wall of reality and put in to context.The problem with whataboutism, is that it doesn’t take in to account any of the finer points of a discussion. It’s a very similar vein as to when people say things like ‘why don’t we have a white lives matter… blah blah’ when speaking of Black Lives Matter. To say that it’s missing the point is an gross understatement.
Men, specifically white ones, have been at the top of the pile in society for a long long time. Controlling and suppressing everything that isn’t them. This includes women.
So to answer your question, the reason a petition like that wouldn’t have taken off so drastically, is because there doesn’t need to be a mass discussion on how to protect men against casual abuse in the same way there does for women.
Sure all men have problems, but they’re very much personal ground level problems, not problems to a mass scale which affect you simply because you’re a man - as it does with women, people of colour etc.
The simple fact this needs explaining is petrifying.
I believe the word you’re looking for is social justice.If a white man kills a black man, it’s hate crime. If a black man kills a white man, it’s racial justice! Right? Since slavery and stuff? We should champion two criminal justice systems! Fair and just!
No, this is the crowding-out effect.large numbers of apples employees were not happy with him being part of the company