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SoldOnApple

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Don’t be too quick to pat Timmy on the back. This will simply be passed down to us through an increase in cost for upcoming devices.
The amount of time retail staff is used per year compared to the number of products sold per year must add up to mere minutes per product, I doubt the price will even go up because Apple usually target even numbers with their prices, like $899. Apple won't raise the price of the next iPhone to $901.
 

JippaLippa

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Jan 14, 2013
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15+ years into my graphic design career and $22 an hour still sounds like a pipe dream
In 8 years of my Motion Design Career (Freelance) I went from 0$ to 45$ per hour.

Raising prices can be hard and scary, but you have to be tenacious (provided you have a decent clientele that will keep working with you).

It was counterintuitive at firsf to ask for more, but clients appreciate the assertiveness.
 
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iBreatheApple

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Sep 3, 2011
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15+ years into my graphic design career and $22 an hour still sounds like a pipe dream
Right. People think nurses make so much money and in the south that’s new grad pay. Not that nurses are more important than anyone. But it’s like… why go 20k in debt to work an insanely stressful job for $22/hr.
 
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wilberforce

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"Retail pay minimum is rising 10% from $20 to $22 or more depending on location..."

I was wondering if it would vary by location. $22 is OK but not impressive here in SF Bay Area. Easily can consume all of that in rent and taxes

 
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GMShadow

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Too late. Unionization will still likely happen.

If you know anything about labor relations, unionization happens overwhelming because of inequality, perceived or otherwise. A simple pay increase won't fix arbitrary decisions on promotions, vacation scheduling, overtime opportunities, and overall career advancement in the organization.
Neither will a union, but at least some union bosses will make more money.
 

Antes

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Would still be very difficult to live in Los Angeles with $22 an hour. If it was 2019 then it would be ok.
 

tonywalker23

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When I worked at an  store in SC in 2010-2011 I made $9 an hour as a part-time specialist. FT specialist made $10 an hour… in the words of one of Job's favorite songs: "the times are a changin'"
 

erikkfi

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May 19, 2017
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22 dollars an hour and no union? Why can’t I have no dollars an hour and 22 union?
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Price increase bound to happen. It’s inevitable. Such salary increase would just circulate the money back to apple eventually. Apple can pay $30/hr and it still doesn’t matter, except even crazier price increase.

Customers are always the group that foot the salary increase. Not apple. Not Tim Cook. Not anyone else.
 
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dwaite

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Apple only doing the "right thing" now out of fear. Aholes.

Bring jobs back to USA. Bring the factories back to USA.

Amazon etc fighting union's and the dumb ppl believing the hype to fight unions. They are needed !

It's not like they are having an "oh ****" moment and raising it from $5. This was a 10% increase on their previous $20 base.

And bringing factories back to the US is in process, but it will take decades. You can't have factories doing manufacturing or assembly if they can't get the raw materials, parts or labor force.
 
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sudo-sandwich

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I strongly prefer this to unionizing. Union crony fat cats don't care about employees. They are just as if not more corrupt than a lot of "evil" corporations.

This is the best case scenario for everyone - unions don't add a layer of corrupt bureaucracy to Apple, and employees get paid fairly. Win-win.
It's less exciting than this. $22/hr is probably just the inflation-adjusted version of whatever they had before.
Edit: I only mean adjusted due to inflation, not keeping up with it.
 
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