Apple Releases macOS Catalina With Find My, Screen Time, and No More iTunes

[Killerbob]

I will for sure update all my remaining Macs tonight. I have been using the beta version for the lat many months, and thought there has been a few issues, most were caused by 3 things; no 32-bit applications in Catalina, the new Boot ROM version for Mac Pros, and the split-up of iTunes.

The 32-bit application issues are caused by vendors not upgrading their applications long ago, and for the most part is sorted by updating, or finding alternatives.

The Boot ROM issues were solved, and though it took forever, we were beta testers for a reason.

iTunes being discontinued and broken into Music etc., is just a change - Live with it.

Of course some people will say what about the problems with the iCloud files and sync, and again I say "We are Beta testers for a reason".

 

[btrach144]

app store and software update in settings

I thought all major macOS upgrades had to be initiated through the Mac App Store in the past? Settings app is only for smaller updates.

 

[Brammy]

I only see a 19mb download in Applications. How do I get the full installer do make a USB installer.

Edit: Apparently the System Prefs update is downloading the full app.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

Yes.
Go to About this mac -> System Report -> Under Software, select Applications and there you can order the list based on 64bit apps.

My inkserver and quicklookd32 are still 32bit. Guess I'll hold off

 

[mcbumbersnazzle]

To people who have used the GM in the past week: how is stability? How much have things improved since the beta this summer?

Used beta 6 to the gm, erased the drive and everything, It's still trash . GM works like a beta and the beta builds were like pre alpha, it's that buggy. Stupid mail app popup still doesn't get fixed, keep asking "do you want to open" keep showing when using the vmware, Music app is worse than iTunes somehow with less functionality and somehow slower, it also lost my artwork in the process. The TV app is straight up garbage. Change the display profile of external monitor and then open the lid it resets. So yeah it's trash, trash like apple QA in the last 3 years

 

[Killerbob]

is there any way to check if there are 32bit apps on the system?

You can check in System Information...

 

[mikeboss]

Build 19A583

 

[urbanmacUser]

All Enterprise Mac admins just blocked it ?

 

[petvas]

Ok, thanks to all that posted the AppStore link. Downloading now..

 

[AppleZilla]

Can anyone tell me if you can put Apple created playlists in folders now? In Mojave (and prior) you could only put user created playlists in folders.

 

[petvas]

Build 19A583

Interesting. I wonder what they changed from the GM seed..

 

[maxdefcon]

It showed up in Settings > Software Update for me.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

It's on the App Store under Utilities. Just search for Catalina.

 

[redheeler]

Build 19A583

Beta 11 is 19A582a so there is probably no difference aside from the build number. I'm not even seeing the update yet in Software Update.

 

[iLoveDeveloping]

Juli you have to many apple devices. Seriously!!! Can I have some? ??

 

[Return Zero]

and No More iTunes

*Sniff... The end of an era.

 

[Expos of 1969]

8.09 GB and my Mac says about 2 hours remaining

 

[iapplelove]

I know it’s probably been beaten to death, but local iTunes backups for devices?
Sorry don’t feel like reading today.

 

[HobbesInVA]

This is a huge update....8+ GB.

 

[jmgregory1]

8.09 GB and my Mac says about 2 hours remaining

Same 8.09 GB, but my download time was 5 minutes (I’ve got a fast connection). Working on installing now.

 

[sugargliderdude]

I thought all major macOS upgrades had to be initiated through the Mac App Store in the past? Settings app is only for smaller updates.

for me, Catalina is showing in the App store, and when i do a software check, catalina showed up to download

 

[jsmith189]

I thought all major macOS upgrades had to be initiated through the Mac App Store in the past? Settings app is only for smaller updates.

Interestingly, while it was added to the App Store, clicking install just took you to Settings lol.

 

[estabya]

Beta 11 is 19A582a so there is probably no difference aside from the build number. I'm not even seeing the update yet in Software Update.

I'm also on beta 11 and not seeing an update.

 

[TheSkywalker77]

Beta 11 is 19A582a so there is probably no difference aside from the build number. I'm not even seeing the update yet in Software Update.

I'm wondering if it'll show up under software update if I remove the beta profile. Can't hurt to try, right?

EDIT: After removing the profile and restarting nothing changed. Guess they're the exact same build minus an A in the build number.

 

[vmachiel]

Remember kids, 32-bit apps are NOT supported on Catalina.

It was time. If you don’t do these things every now and then, you’ll end up in technical debt hell.