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Apple Responds to Criticism Over iPhone's 'Parts Pairing' Process
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True tone and auto brightness may not work because if it's a b/c grade screen they can't guarantee (1) brightness and (2) color.
This doesn't address the fact that these features don't work even if the screen is genuine.
You can buy two brand new, identical iPhones, swap the screens and only the screens between them, and lose access to those features.
Nobody is asking Apple to guarantee the performance of third-party parts. It would be as if a car disabled the windshield wipers if the glass were replaced.
Apple disables True Tone and Auto Brightness regardless if the replacement an OEM or third-party. It's clear Apple simply wants parts pairing.
Lexus? Debateable. Lexii are just gussied up Toyotas, with tons of parts and documentation in the pipeline and a robust third party support infrastructure world-wide (with the possible exception of the LFA and maybe the LC500H).
I find iPhones are more akin to Porsches, vis-a-vis reputation, performance, proprietary tech and protectionist B.S. (I have both Porsches and iPhones, both old and would benefit from a part or two).
Battery, screen and cameras replacement should NOT be tied to pairing. Only the biometric stuff like touchID and faceID needs to be paired.
I have always been perfectly okay with part pairing for Touch ID and Face ID.
However pairing my battery or camera and stopping functionality with things like battery health (coconut battery works with 3rd party batteries why can’t apple?) is BS.
While having zero process to allow myself to pair the part even if I have to call Apple or use some software.
And pairing a lid angle sensor is pure greed.
However pairing my battery or camera and stopping functionality with things like battery health (coconut battery works with 3rd party batteries why can’t apple?) is BS.
While having zero process to allow myself to pair the part even if I have to call Apple or use some software.
And pairing a lid angle sensor is pure greed.
Apple just doesn't know when to stop being douchebags. The DOJ case against it is pathetic and a disgrace. But... over and over, Apple is fostering scorn and ill-will with its insulting "compliance" that is in reality a mockery.
I think we shareholders should mount a revolt against Apple's antagonistic and infantile refusal to comply with rulings and laws that would damage its bottom line very little if at all, inviting regulatory crackdowns and global ill-will.
Anti-customer disgraces like the removal of the headphone jacks and the crippling of Bluetooth are bad enough. But when you're openly flouting requirements to offer things that few people will even use, let alone harm your business with... you're stupid.
I think we shareholders should mount a revolt against Apple's antagonistic and infantile refusal to comply with rulings and laws that would damage its bottom line very little if at all, inviting regulatory crackdowns and global ill-will.
Anti-customer disgraces like the removal of the headphone jacks and the crippling of Bluetooth are bad enough. But when you're openly flouting requirements to offer things that few people will even use, let alone harm your business with... you're stupid.
Apple does get a lot of money from preventing use of other parts but from a security stand point the move may be good as mentioned in the article.
To be honest I wish parts pairing was on all iphone parts due to the second hand resale market. Over the years I have bought iphones on the 2nd hand resale market for top dollar only to find out much later that numerous parts have been changed for 3rd party ones. the battery, the screen, the home button, the camera, the speaker module, non Apple parts but paid top price because look, it's an iphone and that for me is where the problem lies. There are millions upon millions of iphones that have had their battery changed, the LCD and touchscreen changed, camera's change by the original owners but they fail to tell buyers that they iphone has 3rd party parts in them because they know if they tell buyers the iphone has non genuine parts in it it will drive the price down and the seller is not about to do that. The result is buyer is given the impression that they are buying a iphone will all genuine parts inside. It's a scam on a large scale and parts pairing would put a stop to that in my opinion.
This is why with the used car market it is commonly accepted that cars with a proven service history are more desirable than one's without because buyers can see if the car has been regularly serviced and what parts have been changed showing the make and model of the part in the receipts so buyers can see if a genuine replacement part was used or a 3rd party part was used. You do not get this with used iphones, you are just told it's an iphone, not knowing it could have many 3rd party parts in there that would affect the price of the iphone.
If I want to buy a used iphone I need to be safe in the knowledge that I am buying a iphone fitted with all genuine Apple parts but I cannot do that because of how easy it is to replace genuine parts with 3rd party parts and no one is told such a thing took place.
Yes I understand parts pairing is not wanted but it is needed because humans can not be trusted to do the right thing which is tell potential buyers if the iphone contains 3rd party parts.
This is why with the used car market it is commonly accepted that cars with a proven service history are more desirable than one's without because buyers can see if the car has been regularly serviced and what parts have been changed showing the make and model of the part in the receipts so buyers can see if a genuine replacement part was used or a 3rd party part was used. You do not get this with used iphones, you are just told it's an iphone, not knowing it could have many 3rd party parts in there that would affect the price of the iphone.
If I want to buy a used iphone I need to be safe in the knowledge that I am buying a iphone fitted with all genuine Apple parts but I cannot do that because of how easy it is to replace genuine parts with 3rd party parts and no one is told such a thing took place.
Yes I understand parts pairing is not wanted but it is needed because humans can not be trusted to do the right thing which is tell potential buyers if the iphone contains 3rd party parts.
Nah. If you want to use a third party option and understand the risks you should be able to do it. It's your phone you paid for. They made that issue and they have to live with it.
Ha Apple OEM parts tends to be the worst quality wise as they are mass produced cheap garbage.
Well this is a good solution apple should have done from day 1.
Allowing parts to be paired by the user and locked with activation lock. And using non-OEM parts and registering it as such in the settings menu.
A complete win-win-win for everyone. Instead of the insane pairing solution of requiring Apple as the middleman.
This might be a coincidence benefitial to Apple, however there is now a new problem with this approach that Apple might want to resolve sometime soon and which might resolve what you mentioned:
The part itself doesn't have a way to authenticate, pairing merely marks the serial number of the new part as genuine. The way Apple ensures that only genuine parts can be paired is by closely guarding their gsx pairing software. This has already been circumvented in two ways:
At first entire chips containing the serial number were pulled off the defective part and soldered onto the replacement part which worked but obviously required more effort. And now there's a device on the market that independent repair shops can purchase to reprogram the chip and copy the serial number from the defective Apple part to the replacement part in seconds.
Apple could use the serial number itself to encode the fact that it's an Apple part thus making pairing obsolete. This would then allow Apple parts to be accepted by iPhone automatically without pairing. However, I think what Apple ultimately wants to make sure is that iPhone cannot be spoofed into thinking it has an OEM part installed when it doesn't. And the serial number encoding won't prevent the copying.
So whatever they'll change next might very well include some sort of cryptography that actually authenticates the part properly instead of this terrible pairing that as you said also prevents genuine Apple parts from being accepted. That would then allow iPhone to identify parts as genuine without circumvention possible and it would do away with the need for pairing. Customers could know with certainty whether their part is Apple original or third party and original Apple parts could finally be swapped easily.
I completely agree with you that the way Apple does it now is terrible, but Apple has only really started experimenting with this on actual iPhone releases a couple years ago and I think what we have now is more of Apple making their first baby steps with parts authentication. Of course Apple should be criticized for this as it's now, my point is just that Apple might already know internally that their pairing isn't preventing third party apps to be spoofed to look like Apple original parts and if Apple is at all concerned with protecting their iPhone brand they'll overhaul this entirely.
It's actually terrible from a security point of view. There is no parts authenticating and repair shops can now clone serial numbers from the original but defective part onto a third party replacement part. The pairing has thus been circumvented already and especially from a security point of view Apple should replace the current pairing process with their parts properly authenticating with iPhone. This would then make iPhone recognize original parts automatically without the insecure pairing mechanism and will both improve ease of repairs as well as well as security.
Well yes and no
But as is the Apple identity… it’s better a function doesn’t work at all instead of the calibration being off …
Ternus said Apple “totally believes that third-party parts should be usable in repair” as long as the use of those parts is disclosed to a device’s owner. But the reason those aftermarket parts in iPhones won’t work the same as original parts do, he added, is because Apple doesn’t know how to calibrate them to work as the company intended.
That seems a pretty weak argument. How much calibration is needed? How is it supposedly too hard to do? Seriously? 🙄
I am all for easier repair options but it does not look like iFixit is asking for something better. Back in the days people could drown their iPhones, get them “fixed” and find a fool to sell it as “almost new” (and then phone eventually broke because short-circuit is really hard to fix completely). Now Apple giving option to install parts salvaged from other phones and adding whole repair history section, I mean whats wrong with it? It is cool, isn’t it?
If only iPhones had user-replaceable batteries and I would call these phones nearly ideal. Why iFixit and such don’t advocate for that? Market is flooded with devices that have non-removable batteries. I would pay Apple directly if they sold genuine user-replaceable batteries on website.
And don’t say it will remove waterproof capabilities. GoPro can be submerged underwater for up to 10 meters and you can replace battery, lens and storage in it with no issues
If only iPhones had user-replaceable batteries and I would call these phones nearly ideal. Why iFixit and such don’t advocate for that? Market is flooded with devices that have non-removable batteries. I would pay Apple directly if they sold genuine user-replaceable batteries on website.
And don’t say it will remove waterproof capabilities. GoPro can be submerged underwater for up to 10 meters and you can replace battery, lens and storage in it with no issues
Then don't put them in your phone. Others might be OK with it.
That may be, but it's probably required (keeping the mic enabled) by the NSA or some other government agency for some reason. If you use a genuine Apple part, then the agency in question can probably turn it on or off.
With global government's attacks on privacy, I don't see any reason at this point to trust Apple any more than anyone else.
What are some people smoking here. There is nothing wrong or evil about this. I sure dont want to have cheap imitation parts used in my devises. I’ve paid a premium for a well built product and I want it to stay that way regardless of the kind of part. I am one of the last people to ever defend Apple but in this instance I strongly support the move.
Unbelievable: guy that repairs phones with 3rd party parts says 3rd party parts are better
And the people that are advocating for the free for all of open repair would just say sucks to be your friend.
In other words, the person doing the repair either did not know what they were doing or did not care.
I don't value resale price. I transfer old devices to my personal Museum of Prospective E-Waste, so I have something to show the neighborhood brats, always whining about how their wetware interface plugs itch. "Mister Rat, I can't mow your grass today, because your mower's cheap replacement haptics aren't paired, and that makes my implants smell like Durian fruit..." Whippersnappers!
Parts pairing is evil. No exceptions.
No, you don't get to claim the Touch ID module is somehow special. That's utterly ridiculous. All it does is read the fingerprint and send it to the secure enclave chip that's on the logic board. You didn't think it was actually on the sensor, did you? You didn't think the Face ID camera does anything but take a picture, did you?
Parts pairing is about ONE thing: Profits. The only 'security' risk is to Apple's 'repair' profit stream.
And the 'calibration' nonsense is just that, nonsense. Apple wants new trackpads on Macs to be 'calibrated'. I've done the process. Guess what? I've never seen a new trackpad work any better after it's been 'calibrated' than before.
I've got a 2018 MacBook Air that has non-functional keyboard backlighting. Why? Because the ambient light sensor isn't paired. The screen was broken, I replaced it with a REAL Apple screen from another MBA. But because I have no way to pair the ALS, Apple broke the keyboard backlight - at least once the OS is booted. It works fine at power on, it's got keyboard backlight until after I put in the FileVault password. I'm sure the ALS is fine in the screen, but that doesn't even matter to me, because I turn off automatic keyboard backlight brightness and automatic screen brightness anyway, I want that controlled manually. But even though when I replaced the screen with a used one I had access to the 'authorized repair' tools, I couldn't pair the replaced screen, because the only time Apple enables access to that particular tool is during a screen replacement when you order a new screen from Apple.
EVIL.
No, you don't get to claim the Touch ID module is somehow special. That's utterly ridiculous. All it does is read the fingerprint and send it to the secure enclave chip that's on the logic board. You didn't think it was actually on the sensor, did you? You didn't think the Face ID camera does anything but take a picture, did you?
Parts pairing is about ONE thing: Profits. The only 'security' risk is to Apple's 'repair' profit stream.
And the 'calibration' nonsense is just that, nonsense. Apple wants new trackpads on Macs to be 'calibrated'. I've done the process. Guess what? I've never seen a new trackpad work any better after it's been 'calibrated' than before.
I've got a 2018 MacBook Air that has non-functional keyboard backlighting. Why? Because the ambient light sensor isn't paired. The screen was broken, I replaced it with a REAL Apple screen from another MBA. But because I have no way to pair the ALS, Apple broke the keyboard backlight - at least once the OS is booted. It works fine at power on, it's got keyboard backlight until after I put in the FileVault password. I'm sure the ALS is fine in the screen, but that doesn't even matter to me, because I turn off automatic keyboard backlight brightness and automatic screen brightness anyway, I want that controlled manually. But even though when I replaced the screen with a used one I had access to the 'authorized repair' tools, I couldn't pair the replaced screen, because the only time Apple enables access to that particular tool is during a screen replacement when you order a new screen from Apple.
EVIL.