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Apple Store in Oklahoma City Becomes Second in U.S. to Unionize
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Unions are a ponzi scheme. Where do all those union dues go? Hmmmmmm…
They can’t be fired at will, the union will negotiate yearly raises on behalf of employees and usually they barter for benefits too and other rights, they’re a mediator between an employee and the company and are somewhat protected. Very basic things and people are forced to unionize and change things themselves, just to be treated with value. Very sad stuff.
When employees of the largest and wealthiest companies (Apple, Amazon) have to begin unionizing…there is a problem.
So you can’t lay off union employees when business decreases?
I'd always prefer to be in a union. Negotiating stuff in person can be very intimidating and I'd rather someone else do it for me.
Well, Apple has to come to the table and negotiate a contract with the employees. I don't know much about the situation, but I'm guessing there hasn't been much communication between the store and corporate. It takes two to tango.
Who speaks for the 32 that didn’t vote for the union, though?
I've worked in both union and non-union companies and there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
If they voted for it, great. If they didn't also great.
The voted to speak for themselves. That's why they chose to vote no to a union.
Your lack of knowledge of how labour relations works is almost funny. More sad though than funny.
Lol, you should make sure you are certain what is being said before accusing others of dramatics. Being surprised that a typically conservative state that staunchly supports anti-union “right-to-work” policies is where a second store unionized rather than in more labor friendly states is far from dramatic, unless one isn’t sure what right-to-work laws are and what they are designed to do.
Saying you are surprised a state with such a large right-wing population is neither a pro or anti-union statement, nor is it one that implies anything will change.
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During the pandemic when stores were closed AND Apple could have let all of them go (as many other retail organizations did), Apple gave folks jobs at home. A better deal than even a lot of non-retail jobs. I hope those unions are including that in their negotiations. Actually, the union members pay dues, so the union may pay out of that?
No you can't,..and in fact if that occurred, Apple would find themselves in Court. You cannot simply discriminate based on whether an employee is in a Union.
To me, this shows that there's a problem with Apple's HR. I mean even after the carrot Apple dangled with the increased benefits, people are still opting to unionize. That means there's something wrong with you as a company. Your ML head left just like that because wfo policy. That means there's already an underlying dissatisfaction. Apple, review your HR team and policies. You're rotting from the inside. Catch it before it's too late.
Oh pleease,..they are a Trillion dollar company with many shareholders. Whos then going to sell overpriced phones to the public upon re-opening??
Ah, then they don’t HAVE to be union members in Oklahoma? I mean, if 4 people voted for the union and 33 didn’t, then would it still go to the NLRB for those 4 to be in the union?
No, it is dramatic and stop including all in State. People have their own brains, to make their OWN decisions. You can still have conservative views and be a part of a Union. Lol. The employees have decided that they would have better working conditions and voted. Move on.
Well, that question would have to go to all of those companies that fired their workers and hired new ones as the pandemic eased.
Still, hope the union is working to ensure these folks get paid if it happens again!
I will be in that town in a few days. I need to make a point of going into that store, buying something expensive, then telling the manager I did it because they are union.
Not exactly… Because of seniority, the longer a worker has been at a union store, the more protection/security they have. Apple will always want to stick to a merit based retention for example, just based on customer satisfaction. 🤷
Right now they're making less than the non-union employees and have less benefits, because Apple wasn't able to give them the benefits the others got.
Unions are the worst in modern times. All unions do is promote laziness and cause problems for customers and employers.
Unions made sense in the 1800s, but they've outlived their usefulness and are now the epitome of greed and corruption.
Unions made sense in the 1800s, but they've outlived their usefulness and are now the epitome of greed and corruption.
This is a good thing. Employees should be protected at all times. No paid sick leave for example is absolutely bonkers imo. I live in one of the most developed countries in the world and we also have the strongest economy of the world. I have a tendency to be very critical towards my government but I just realized I’m very lucky that I was born here. As citizens we are very well protected by our Unions. People who believe that Tim Cook genuinely cares about his retail workers are delusional. The only risk with Unionization is the importance to have the right people at the helm of the Union, because you want the maximum effect and that is sadly not always the case.