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Apple Threatens to Leave UK Market Due to $7 Billion Patent Dispute
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Or at least be legally bound to offer them with FRAND terms instead of weaponizing them to pursue a legal payday.
Wonder how much £ the UK market is. Probably not worth it. After Brexit, pretty much everyone is leaving the UK. So go ahead Apple, it's ok.
Why do you think they are trolls? My understanding is the patent was ruled as valid.
Off topic but Samsung hardware may get more interesting as their phones will begin using AMD chips beginning this year. Samsung needs to dump Android and develop a real iOS alternative.
With the apple/google store monopoly going through the courts, and them saying they want competition, and if Apple decide to bow out of the UK Market with this bs, we would have one OS, android, which is a .... monopoly.
Companies, Governments, and patent trolls all continue to gouge themselves, and ultimatly the consumer is left bleeding.
Companies, Governments, and patent trolls all continue to gouge themselves, and ultimatly the consumer is left bleeding.
I’m all for holding big companies accountable and allowing anyone to protect their patents, but this just feels like an abuse of the system.
As if this would care, despite a few upset users, Apple does not pay tax anyway.
Look ma, big corp trying to bypass patents with mafia business style methods.
I don't like patent trolls, but patents are patents, face it!
Look ma, big corp trying to bypass patents with mafia business style methods.
I don't like patent trolls, but patents are patents, face it!
Yeah right. Apple will leave the 5th largest economy in the world, one where they hold more than 50% of the smartphone market share, and their second largest services market just because of a patent troll. I'm ordinarily sympathetic to tech companies when it comes to patent trolls, but this threat is just not credible. Argue the legal case without the histrionics Apple.
Not a lawyer, but from my understanding, the validity of a patent doesn't hinge on the question whether the patent holder (or anyone else really) is actively using it or has designed a product that uses it. That wouldn't be a good idea, either. One of the original ideas of patents was that they allowed inventors without money to approach potential financial backers without being worried about having their idea stolen. So, the case of "I've got this great concept but I haven't yet built it" would be a perfectly valid way to use a patent.
The general way of defending yourself against a bad-faith patent lawsuit would be to show either that the patent doesn't cover your specific implementation or that the patent itself is either superseded by prior art (others had already done this before the patent was first filed) or too broad and unspecific to merit protection. (If we were still in the horse & buggy days, you couldn't patent the general idea of using mechanical means to power a vehicle, but you would be able to get a patent for a specific type of engine that you invented.)
It's a shame that the English support the other home nations at every tournament while their supporters of those nations are so bitter when it comes to reciprocating.
I'm sure Samsung wouldn't mind if Apple pulled out of the UK.
But Apple can't be doing well for sales in the UK, they only paid £9 million in UK corporation tax in 2020... they must have hardly sold anything the poor dears.
But Apple can't be doing well for sales in the UK, they only paid £9 million in UK corporation tax in 2020... they must have hardly sold anything the poor dears.
When companies abuse Apple's patent's, Apple go after them with everything they've got, take no prisoners but when Apple abuses the patents of others, they throw their toys out the pram and cry that it's not fair that are being told they have to pay for using someone elses patents.
One rule for Apple and one rule for everyone else.
One rule for Apple and one rule for everyone else.
LOL @ Apple they forgot that all their bills (shady tax bypass methods) goes through Ireland, just look at your App receipes.
They should think twice about who is holding the longer lever here. ?
They should think twice about who is holding the longer lever here. ?
The judge will rightly ignore all that. Judges are solely concerned with applying the law as it stands. They are not responsible for ensuring full employment of the populace.
Everybody complaining they are entitled to a bigger slice of the cake are out of their minds and in pure greed. Do they want more? Sure, go ahead and put your own hardware out to market; then dump your application on it. Support it, make it friendly, keep it updated and prove you are up for “fair competition” as you keep asking on courts worldwide.
Oh wait, they can’t. They only have a piece of paper with “an idea”. At best, they jumped into the bandwagon of a product they were incapable to create. Unsurprisingly enough, I don’t see Google or Microsoft going after Apple on court. Maybe they know this isn’t as easy as going to court claiming “entitlement”. Go figure…
Since iOS 1.0, I have everything I needed on my phone. And I regret nothing.
TL;DR: post #69. Nice.
Oh wait, they can’t. They only have a piece of paper with “an idea”. At best, they jumped into the bandwagon of a product they were incapable to create. Unsurprisingly enough, I don’t see Google or Microsoft going after Apple on court. Maybe they know this isn’t as easy as going to court claiming “entitlement”. Go figure…
Since iOS 1.0, I have everything I needed on my phone. And I regret nothing.
TL;DR: post #69. Nice.
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I'd leave. The amount is crazy. Without this, I wonder home much this company makes on patent. They should be thanking Apple
I am English. We lost the final of the Euro's. We came 2nd. No one died! It's not the end of the world. We can try again next time! Sometimes we win, sometimes (usually) we lose. Maybe we can win at the 2022 one
Is Apple's tax haven in Northern Ireland (part of UK), or Republic of Ireland (not part of UK)? That would also lend credibility to any claims of pulling out.
Did I miss something? Did Ireland suddenly become part of the UK?
I just hope you find happiness in whichever country it is you decide to move to.
If anything people would just buy from one of the surrounding countries and import them. Also if you piss off enough people they will complain to their politicians and maybe something will change.
Are samsung and other OEMs on the hook for these patents, considering the patent is standard based?