Apple to Introduce iWatch in September Suggests Apple Journalist John Gruber [Updated]

[Rogifan]

First of all, you missed the context of my statement. I suggest you find it and recognize it before reading the rest.

Second of all, notifications have been in iOS since iOS 5. If you're referring to active notifications, they look rather different on iOS than on Android and especially compared to Windows Phone 8.

A large portion of their customers have been asking for third party keyboards for a long time, it was a matter of Apple trying to make them as secure as possible.

Steve Jobs had been promising widgets as early as 2009 as well. They're just another item on the list of things that are being added to iOS carefully and tastefully.

I have a hard time believing everything we saw at WWDC was in the pipeline for years and it's just coincidence they're happening after Jobs passed and Scott Forstall is no longe with the company. I think it's well known that Federighi is more of an engineering nerd than Forstall was so perhaps it's more of a change in attitude with Cook and Federighi being more receptive to opening up the platform than Jobs and Forstall were? If Apple was truly serious about widgets in 2009 I have a hard time believing it would take 5 years to implement them. Which tells me they weren't high on Forstall or Jobs priority list.

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Agreed, that's a valid possibility.



*laughing* Yes, well at least some people here would, that's true.

"Normal" people, on the other hand, might be happier

Yes, true. I just know as much as people *^% about thinner and lighter they never drool over things that are thicker and heavier.

I still don't think it's as cut and dry as 'Apple wants things as thin as possible battery life be dammed' otherwise the 3rd gen iPad wouldn't have been thicker and heavier.

 

[rish]

Of course it will be. iOS device day is always a disappointment because the forum/blog readers everywhere get themselves all worked up about what is going to happen and then 60% of it doesn't and the analysts jump up with their 'well it was going to but there was an issue so its been delayed' crap.

The only way that no one will be disappointed will be if the announcement is definitely on the 9th and Apple announces.

1. five different iPhone 6 sizes (physical not storage)
2. five different iPad sizes
3. ipads, iphones, ipod touches with 1TB of storage
4. 50% price cuts across the board
5. a 'watch' that does everything including cook your breakfast and wipe your butt for you. and costs $50
6. a TV that supports everything up to 8K, IMAX and glasses free 3d. has a perfect image and color and costs $100
7. Apple is starting their own cell phone company with unlimited everything, no throttling oh and it's only $10 a month
8. Apple is starting their own ISP. no throttling, $20 a month
9. Apple is starting their own cable company and it's free.

and so on.

Enjoyed this post, a real laugh about the expectations of us forum posters. #

 

[jolux]

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Some things take a goddamn long time to implement. There is bureaucracy at Apple, as anywhere else. Sure, it's greatly reduced, but I'm certain there are always a lot of things they want to implement but can't.

They weren't high on priorities, but the idea has been floating around for awhile. Also, iOS widgets are so different from Android widgets it's stupid to compare the two.

 

[lazyrighteye]

If they replaced "Apple journalist" with "columnist" (his official occupation, per wiki) or "tech blogger" in the header, would this thread have been 100 posts shorter?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gruber

 

[oxley6548]

iWatch to work with home kit?

Apple May add sensors to the iWatch to be compatible with home kit and products around the home also I've heard that they may make the iWatch Walter proof like the Samsung S5! Why not I mean theirs a lot of watches out their that are waterproof and if it true about the wireless charging then their wouldn't be any need for ports or any way for water to seep in! And watches are made for every day use so being water proof and having biometric sensors would be amazing

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I'm not worrying about design wise I believe it will be amazing with Jong I've and amazing creative skills I'm sure he's up at apple in his private lab(or what ever you want to call it) creating the best design going!
I like the round look on the moto but it looks a bit think and the materials look a bit cheap I reckon apple will bring out the usual colours: space Gray gold and silver if those are available I reckon the slate would look amazing personally

 

[Born Again]

John Gruber a Journalist? an Apple fan boy? yes. Blogger? Yes, but a Journalist? .....

Gruber is an atrocious human being. The guy loves the smell of his own farts.

His podcasts are apple fanboy love fests

 

[the8thark]

Ooh...so the Journalist took over the job from Analyst...

There is a difference between the two? If there is I don't see it.

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Gruber is an atrocious human being. The guy loves the smell of his own farts.

His podcasts are apple fanboy love fests

Jim Dalrymple is just the same

 

[usamaah]

You want a flat tire design?

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I want the Moto360, so I guess to answer your question, yes.

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The Moto 360 is the best looking turd of the group of turds. Apparently no one has watched a video on it. It is SOOO thick, it is truly hideous, and so far from fashionable it's crazy. It also looks like it was made out of very cheap material, and the way the band attaches to it...so awful. Sorry I'm so critical of it though. Also it isn't even a fully round display... It's so bad.

Have seen the video. Watch is a bit thick, but so much more thick than non-smart watches in fashion these days. I imagine they made it thicker for battery reasons. Anyway doesn't look cheap to me, doesn't need to have a fully round display for me and others here to think it's beautiful.

Seems like a lot of people need symmetry in their life and will hate on the smallest things that detracts from it.

 

[octothorpe8]

Best designed based on what criteria? The ugly black bar at the bottom of the display? Circular watch faces are great if you're just telling time. But who needs a "smart" watch to tell time?

Notice in some cases the UI is slightly cut off or goes right up to the edge of the watch face. I don't know if I'd consider that best designed.

Well frankly, if I was into the idea of a wrist computer, the "analog" watch display is the one I'd want showing 99% of the time when I'm walking around because I don't want to look like a cyborg. And every other "smart watch" I've seen so far has some god awful globular or rectangular shape that just screams "tech-wad who needs a display in front of their face at all times so they don't go into data withdrawal".

That said, I am imagining that Apple will do better when they get around to it. I'm in no hurry myself — I've got enough screens pumping enough crap at me already.

 

[Milese3]

I need clarification - has there been any solid proof as to weather the iWatch exists? If so - has there been any proof it will release this year?

I am very excited for an Apple wearable. I have read rumors about it's sensors etc, but I have never seen any news showing leaks from the supply chain (schematics, shells, etc).

However, I do remember that the iPad and iPhone when originally announced, were shipped a long time after the unveiling. Maybe Apple has done the same to reduce leaks, etc.

I am totally confused as to it's existence - can someone clarify.

 

[cjmillsnun]

I need clarification - has there been any solid proof as to weather the iWatch exists? If so - has there been any proof it will release this year?

I am very excited for an Apple wearable. I have read rumors about it's sensors etc, but I have never seen any news showing leaks from the supply chain (schematics, shells, etc).

However, I do remember that the iPad and iPhone when originally announced, were shipped a long time after the unveiling. Maybe Apple has done the same to reduce leaks, etc.

I am totally confused as to it's existence - can someone clarify.

No there has been no solid proof. It's all rumours and hearsay, much like Gene Munster's Apple television set (which will never materialise). Having said that. That was also the case leading up to the iPad release. So as they say, who knows?

 

[IJ Reilly]

I need clarification - has there been any solid proof as to weather the iWatch exists? If so - has there been any proof it will release this year?

I am very excited for an Apple wearable. I have read rumors about it's sensors etc, but I have never seen any news showing leaks from the supply chain (schematics, shells, etc).

However, I do remember that the iPad and iPhone when originally announced, were shipped a long time after the unveiling. Maybe Apple has done the same to reduce leaks, etc.

I am totally confused as to it's existence - can someone clarify.

No there has been no solid proof. It's all rumours and hearsay, much like Gene Munster's Apple television set (which will never materialise). Having said that. That was also the case leading up to the iPad release. So as they say, who knows?

Even more to the point, the "iWatch" name and concept being applied to this rumored product are bogus, and don't really even make any sense. We can only be reasonably certain that Apple is interested in wearable tech, if for no other reason then Tim Cook dropped that hint some time ago, and we know about their hires in biometrics expertise. The rumors community gave it an arbitrary name and concept, neither of which seem very likely.

 

[Milese3]

Even more to the point, the "iWatch" name and concept being applied to this rumored product are bogus, and don't really even make any sense. We can only be reasonably certain that Apple is interested in wearable tech, if for no other reason then Tim Cook dropped that hint some time ago, and we know about their hires in biometrics expertise. The rumors community gave it an arbitrary name and concept, neither of which seem very likely.

Agreed. Apple has recently hired a lot of specialist in wearable tech, as well as execs from companies like Tag Heuer. I saw recently a patent from Apple which indicated a device named iTime. Does Apple have any more patents for a wrist computer?

Also, rumors about a October announcement, where did they develop and do they have any clarity? I honestly hope Apple announces a new product category this year.

 

[Born Again]

There is a difference between the two? If there is I don't see it.

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Jim Dalrymple is just the same

havent heard of him but i dont like him either

 

[jolux]

Gruber is an atrocious human being. The guy loves the smell of his own farts.

His podcasts are apple fanboy love fests

He fervently embraces the term fanboy, though he certainly doesn't care what your opinion is anyway. Nor do I, I just thought it poignant to correct you on the little fanboy non sequitur.

I want the Moto360, so I guess to answer your question, yes.

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Have seen the video. Watch is a bit thick, but so much more thick than non-smart watches in fashion these days. I imagine they made it thicker for battery reasons. Anyway doesn't look cheap to me, doesn't need to have a fully round display for me and others here to think it's beautiful.

Seems like a lot of people need symmetry in their life and will hate on the smallest things that detracts from it.

The problem with the Moto 360 is that they embraced the round design to a point where it's defeated itself. They wanted so badly for it to be round that it's not. I have mild OCD, and that tiny black thing bugs the crap out of me. I think it's just ugly, just another seam on a platform that is famous for their seams. I don't like seeing any seams at all, but they seem to want to make it as obvious as possible with that charging ring app and the other designs.

You can tell they're ashamed of it too, because http://www.android.com/wear/ only shows it with black watch faces so as to hide the little spot. They also only show it at a specific angle to hide its thickness.

 

[Achtung73]

The key to wearable tech is the user interface.
I can see a use for a device with means of alerting the user to an incoming call/message and means of giving the wearer enough information to decide whether to pull their phone out.
I can also see that imbedded sensors could feed data to the wearers phone or tablet.
But how does the user consume and enter data?
The trend of growing smartphones is a clear indicator that users are willing to carry around something bigger for a better user interface shows that this is easier on a bigger screen and wearable tech flies in the face of this.
Whilst apple can't afford to just keep on upgrading and refreshing existing products nor can they afford to release an ill-conceived and clunky product.
If and when apple move into wearable tech I can see there being a huge surprise exactly what the product is, what it does and how it communicates with the user, apples ecosystem and the world at large.
The more 'smart' watches I see the less I think Apple will produce one. Could they be deliberately introducing rumors to waste their competitors time?
Only time will tell.

 

[Born Again]

He fervently embraces the term fanboy, though he certainly doesn't care what your opinion is anyway. Nor do I, I just thought it poignant to correct you on the little fanboy non sequitur.



The problem with the Moto 360 is that they embraced the round design to a point where it's defeated itself. They wanted so badly for it to be round that it's not. I have mild OCD, and that tiny black thing bugs the crap out of me. I think it's just ugly, just another seam on a platform that is famous for their seams. I don't like seeing any seams at all, but they seem to want to make it as obvious as possible with that charging ring app and the other designs.

You can tell they're ashamed of it too, because http://www.android.com/wear/ only shows it with black watch faces so as to hide the little spot. They also only show it at a specific angle to hide its thickness.

Why do you like gruber ? He one sided

Often lambasting other companies not named apple.

He has no journalistic integrity.

He isn't a journalist

 

[IJ Reilly]

Could they be deliberately introducing rumors to waste their competitors time?

No need for Apple to instigate misdirection when the rumors industry is so willing to make poorly informed guesses all on their own.

 

[macsforever]

Of course it will be. iOS device day is always a disappointment because the forum/blog readers everywhere get themselves all worked up about what is going to happen and then 60% of it doesn't and the analysts jump up with their 'well it was going to but there was an issue so its been delayed' crap.

The only way that no one will be disappointed will be if the announcement is definitely on the 9th and Apple announces.

1. five different iPhone 6 sizes (physical not storage)
2. five different iPad sizes
3. ipads, iphones, ipod touches with 1TB of storage
4. 50% price cuts across the board
5. a 'watch' that does everything including cook your breakfast and wipe your butt for you. and costs $50
6. a TV that supports everything up to 8K, IMAX and glasses free 3d. has a perfect image and color and costs $100
7. Apple is starting their own cell phone company with unlimited everything, no throttling oh and it's only $10 a month
8. Apple is starting their own ISP. no throttling, $20 a month
9. Apple is starting their own cable company and it's free.

and so on.

Sorry... just had to do this....

 

[jolux]

Why do you like gruber ? He one sided

Often lambasting other companies not named apple.

He has no journalistic integrity.

He isn't a journalist

He has plenty of integrity. Do you even know what that means? I encourage you to point me to a post where he demonstrates a lack of journalistic integrity.

All the other news outlets do nothing but lambast Apple and praise its competitors, making up stories about how Apple is on the cusp of failure. They speculate wildly on products that aren't even confirmed to exist much less be released. He doesn't do any of that, he uses facts. The facts shown Apple to be doing fairly well. Perhaps that's what you don't like about him.

 

[ActionableMango]

Stupid flat tire display? The Moto 360 is currently the best looking and designed smartwatch. That guy doesn't deserve any respect for making that idotic comment.

I agree it is currently the best looking smartwatch. But to be fair, I frequently see complaints about the blank zone at the bottom, which is what Gruber is referring to when he says flat tire display. He's far from alone on that opinion.

In fact, even though I am a fan of the styling of this watch, I also think the dead zone stands out as a big flaw. Hopefully some future generation screen can have curved LCD drivers.

Obviously even Motorola doesn't like it either, because you can see in the marketing photo that they've lined up bezel shadows and highlights so that the dead zone is less prominent:

Given the limitations of current gen technology, I'd like to see Moto at the very least extend the white bars (the ones indicating clock positions) upward out of the dead zone so that they are usable. Then at least it would look purposeful and acknowledged instead of just missing and cut off.

 

[charlituna]

Sorry... just had to do this....

yeah I love that one. It flashes in my mind every time someone doesn't get that some 'leak' is just a rumor and possibly farted out of some analyst. Especially when they get all disappointed because it was wrong.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Well frankly, if I was into the idea of a wrist computer, the "analog" watch display is the one I'd want showing 99% of the time when I'm walking around because I don't want to look like a cyborg. And every other "smart watch" I've seen so far has some god awful globular or rectangular shape that just screams "tech-wad who needs a display in front of their face at all times so they don't go into data withdrawal".

That said, I am imagining that Apple will do better when they get around to it. I'm in no hurry myself — I've got enough screens pumping enough crap at me already.

LMAO! Tech Wad really?

Thanks I really got a good laugh from your post.

 

[Oletros]

All the other news outlets do nothing but lambast Apple and praise its competitors, making up stories about how Apple is on the cusp of failure.

Exactly like he does, but in the other direction.

 

[jolux]

Exactly like he does, but in the other direction.

Do you have any examples?