The M-series chips are excellent mobile chips, but the GPU's can't hold a candle to the Nvidia offerings. I'm one of those few who actually needs a beefy GPU for 3D rendering, and prefers to use a Mac.
What could you possibly need from a full-spec Mac Pro if you're running a 2010 today? Nothing against the 2010, as that's what I'm typing this on right now. If you're wanting the expandability, I'd rather jump on a 2019 MP.
Wouldn't matter even if they did add TB5 unless they design in a much larger frame buffer, as owing to the terrible (imo) way MacOS does UI scaling the current one is too small to do workable UI scaling on large displays like the 57" Samsung G9.
A large part of that shrinkage is more to do with the overall shape of the market. The demand for capabilities beyond a high-power workstation but below a reasonably-sized HPC cluster or render farm is not huge and has been eaten into by cloud compute. Maybe apple should have done more to remain in those spaces, but given the margins a trends at the time I can see why they didn’t.
Not really. Mac Pro 2013 is a great example how pro market become shrink and cloud compute still have some issues that workstations are still needed. Now, even their major markets are shrink thanks to Mac Pro 2023.
I think they had conflicting business models. One one hand, they like to boast that all the AI stuff on Apple happens on-device for privacy, but then they go and sink their high-end market and push Pros to either other platforms or the cloud to do that work. It might have been a better sell to offer processing power through the entire stack. They could have added more specialized hardware to the Intel Mac (like afterburner) to compliment this, but they kinda burned it all down in the transition to AS.
At the moment I’m not in the market for a Mac Pro or high end Mac Studio, but I am excited about what the possibilities of the progression of Apple Silicon future generations can bring. Especially if the Pro is truly modular and upgradable. The current design is basically a Mac Studio with expansion slots. That’s very useful for many people, but not to many others. But what if… the module with the processor and associated interfaces can be replaced if not in the current chassis design in a future update. Like PC chassis now the processor module could be upgraded and the expansion slots and chassis reused. This would keep the pros current and make these upgrades more sustainable and affordable. Even maybe have the ability to integrate external graphics processing in some future architecture. I would think that a strategy like that might also be more easily supported be Apple in an overall road map to exploit Apple Silicon and future enhancements to the Pro machine. I don’t know but can the processor module in the current Pro be replaced or upgraded?![]()
Apple is working on a new Mac Studio that is likely to launch in the second half of 2024, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman believes.
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Gurman mentioned the details in this weekend's edition of the "Power On" newsletter. He explained that the new Mac Studio is likely to be offered with the as-yet-unannounced fourth variant of the M3 chip. This will, like previous generations, double the components of the "Max" version, meaning that it will feature up to 32 CPU cores and 80 GPU cores.
Taiwanese research firm TrendForce believes that Apple will launch a new Mac Studio featuring the M3 Ultra chip at WWDC in June, just as it did with the M2 Max and M2 Ultra Mac Studio last year. Prior to the launch of these models in 2023, Gurman reported that Apple was already working on two follow-up machines.
Gurman also believes, contrary to suggestions earlier in the week, that Apple is likely to refresh the Mac Pro with this new high-end chip. He does not believe that Apple is likely to again abandon the machine after only one year.
He added that while upcoming devices such as the M3 MacBook Air could be popular if marketed properly, the Mac roadmap for 2024 is looking "otherwise muted," suggesting some skepticism about Apple's ability to turn the Mac's underperforming sales around.
Article Link: Apple Working on Next-Gen Mac Studio and Mac Pro
Apple isn’t going to give you “modularity”. Unless something drastic happens at a philosophical level, the unified approach that Apple has taken and been very successful with isn’t going to change, even for the Mac Pro.
UAD PCie cards I have no wish to upgrade to exterior thunderbolt boxes. Plus a fair share of 3d rendering and video editing. Oh look, I'm the target audience! And I waited just long enough.
We don't know that for a fact yet. And like I said, I don't want my UAD cards in exterior boxes.
The M3 Ultra will already murder your 2019 Mac Pro. My M2 Ultra Studio is slightly more powerful than my 24-core Mac Pro was – and the M3 will be about twice as fast.
He isn't lying. My M3 Max laptop is faster than my 16-core 2019 Mac Pro (W6800X Duo) at everything so far.
Of course. You didn't think I checked with both UAD AND Apple before I planned to drop $12,000?
I don’t know.
