The real news here seems to be the quality of the display in the new Kindle.
It's amazing to see something with 30% more resolution, better color accuracy, and less reflectivity, at a much lower price.
A shame that it's a 16:10 panel and running Android though.
Hopefully we will see other devices with similar quality panels without having to wait a full year.
I'm looking for something to stream videos to, so display quality is my main priority over anything else.
Everyone has different priorities. Some people want maximum battery life and don't care that much about a few extra mm of thickness and 100g or more of weight, other people already think that the iPad battery life is fantastic and want the device to become as thin and light as possible. The problem for Apple is that with current technology it's not possible to satisfy everyone so they have to judge the balance to create maximum satisfaction across the entire user base. I suppose I'm lucky in that I'm one of the people who thinks that the battery life on the Air delivers all that I need and I'm glad that they used the added power efficiencies to make it as thin and light as possible.Really amazing, who many people think this a great update. Even after played with it at the store, I still think it's incremental at it's best. Can't understand your excitement. The retina screen from the iPad 3 was the greatest improvement so far. I don't know your usage pattern, but most people i know put tablets on a table or on their knees and don't complain about 200g of weight. I hoped, that Apple would use IGZO displays for a longer battery life but instead, they made the device thinner. I'm afraid that the iPhone 6 will still have the same bad battery life, because they think thinner is always better.
The people that develop these amazing technologies must really feel unappreciated by your comments. These are huge leaps by many standards. Hopefully apple will have those solar igzo displays ready for the iPhone 6Really amazing, who many people think this a great update. Even after played with it at the store, I still think it's incremental at it's best. Can't understand your excitement. The retina screen from the iPad 3 was the greatest improvement so far. I don't know your usage pattern, but most people i know put tablets on a table or on their knees and don't complain about 200g of weight. I hoped, that Apple would use IGZO displays for a longer battery life but instead, they made the device thinner. I'm afraid that the iPhone 6 will still have the same bad battery life, because they think thinner is always better.
So funding an organization so it can roll-out its technology would be considered inventing or innovating that technology? In that case, does this mean you will give credit to Microsoft for Apple's comeback circa 1998 when MS invested $150M into Apple?
Picture this: 12" Macbook Air with Retina IGZO display in 2014. 12 hours battery life.
Is that really true? In that case either...
1 - The iPad Air doesn't have an IGZO screen
2 - Apple did a bad job of implementing IGZO in the Air
or 3 - DisplayMate messed up their power consumption tests
... because, adjusting for the same luminance and screen area, DisplayMate actually measured the LTPS screen in the Amazon tablet as being 30% more power efficient than the alleged IGZO screen in the iPad Air.
I'd be interested in more info on the relative power efficiency of LTPS vs IGZO because I'd really like what you say to be correct (and I'm not saying it isn't - all I know about displays is what I read and what other people tell me).
I'd certainly heard that benefit of IGZO vs a-Si but I hadn't read about it against LTPS as well. If rkuo is correct then that would bring an added benefit if an LTPS to IGZO switch was made for the iPhone 6 because, at least for my use, I spend a lot of time looking at static screens (reading ebooks, looking at a map, looking something up in Wikipedia or my Evernote database or just consulting my calendar). The hardware being able to skip refresh cycles when I'm reading ebooks could give a very worthwhile boost to my battery life.
Uh, yes, Microsoft deserves huge credit for that.
Really amazing, who many people think this a great update. Even after played with it at the store, I still think it's incremental at it's best. Can't understand your excitement. The retina screen from the iPad 3 was the greatest improvement so far. I don't know your usage pattern, but most people i know put tablets on a table or on their knees and don't complain about 200g of weight. I hoped, that Apple would use IGZO displays for a longer battery life but instead, they made the device thinner. I'm afraid that the iPhone 6 will still have the same bad battery life, because they think thinner is always better.
No, I believe you're thinking of OLED. I have an OLED screen on my phone, it's meh.
both are almost equally power efficient. The difference is IGZO is a lot more easier to mass produce at that size. This is why Apple use LTPS for phones and IGZO for tablets...
So is the DisplayMate report of the Amazon LTPS screen being 30% more power efficient than the apple IGZO screen down to faulty testing, maybe Amazon's use of blue backlight LEDs suggested earlier in this thread, or something else?Actually IGZO is a little more efficient (has higher electron mobilities) than LTPS.
The reason they use it for the tablets right now is not because it is easier to mass produce, but that it allows for more of the pixel to be transparent. This leads to higher optical throughput and overall higher optical efficiency, which in turn leads to less power consumption...IE smaller batteries...lighter weight.
Sure...I'll agree with that. I agree that the original iPhone was innovative; it provided the right combination of existing touch screen technology inside a great form factor with appropriate and user-friendly software.
But sticking an IGZO screen into an iPad is not innovative. Merely putting a new component (that wasn't invented by Apple itself) into one of its devices doesn't reflect innovation.
We just bought one and I like that it is lighter but I can see these getting broken a lot if School's try to adopt them.
Amazing, a man sold on what marketing names they give to things.
If I told you the iPad had 2gb of ram in it, would it make you happier too? Talk about snake oil.
Tell you what, its got 2gb of ram, its got an A7X, IGZO technology, Corning Gorilla Glass 3 and a quad core chip. Will that make your experience of using it better for you now?
Also you should read up, "Gorilla Glass" only exists now because Jobs resurrected a 15 year old project from the death for the original iPhone.
you do realize how crazy that is, right?
its still the same device with the same batterylife, just like before this annoucement. but now that you know its IGZO, its somehow better?
I can't tell a difference whatsoever and I've had a 3 and 4 iPad
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Sounds like you're the problem and not Apple.
Also, keep in mind low yield qualities of LTPS and the high cost associated with it. If there are low yields, I bet there's even more issues with them in the long haul. I still have a 1st gen iPad and it works wonderfully to this day.IGZO is dead lol
Please do not say "normal LCD". This is still an LCD. LCDs have numerous components; many of which are continually being improved. IGZO is an improved form of transistor.It sounds crazy? So if you're buying a tablet and they say this one uses IGZO technology, and this other one uses the normal LCD display technology but everything else is the same you'd go with the LCD one? There are objective benefits to IGZO such as more accurate touch panels. Do your research.