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Bill Gates sounds rattled by Apple
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I would be pissed too if my great box of goodies came out after a long wait to a luke warm welcome and being annoyed with reporters talking about apple when my big great VISTA is here.
Bill took it back to pre-school on SJ's monkey arse....yeah boy!
Don't worry Bill you will still make billions....even if it flops
Bless
Bill took it back to pre-school on SJ's monkey arse....yeah boy!
Don't worry Bill you will still make billions....even if it flops
Bless
Who says it wasn't great for the consumer?
Since there's really no such thing as benevolent capitalism, we as consumers have to rely on a competitive marketplace to escape being gouged. Or, if the marketplace fails, on the enforcement of antitrust laws. Microsoft's big realization was that they could go way over the line of legal competitive behavior, and by the time anyone caught up to them, the victim would already be dead. They repeated this scheme numerous times. None of it was actually good for us, but as far as Microsoft was concerned it was, because they won, and them winning is the same as us winning. Really, this is the way they think!
Seeing as computers have taken off since I was thinking that they make be connected, though TBH that may be a coincidence, and also most people just use Internet and Office which are available on every platform.
Computers have been big since the mid-80s from my memory, only then it was Atari STs and Amigas that everyone had at home, with Macs and PCs mostly confined to the office. The major thing that has changed since is communication technology now allows us all to talk to each other about our computers, rather than all of us just using them on our own.
Nah, we used to use BBSes over 300 bps modems back then too.
What has changed dramatically is that the 'net has democratized access to information and services and you no longer need a specialized client for your mail application, etc... So that you effectively have more freedom to pick an non-Microsoft OS (or at least stay away from Vista) and still get things done.
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I don't want to have an anti-Microsoft rant but, if Windows is so secure and stable why did Microsoft have to develop and distribute Windows Defender and Windows OneCare as add-ons to protect it's OS?
Microsoft is just plain arrogant. The idiots rewrote the entire IP stack in Vista, and up until just months before the release of Vista Ultimate to corporate users (which happened sometime late 2006) they were still finding exploits that were originally introduced in Windows 95. This is the attitude of a company that honestly believes that it can do anything it wants, and people will flock around them singing their praises.
I think it would make a real statement if you took all those Vista discs and sent them back to Microsoft.
I think it would make a real statement if you took all those Vista discs and sent them back to Microsoft.
While a good image, you know that the type of corporate buyers we're talking about don't have one CD per license, right?
FWIW my wife works for a big company and just got a new HP notebook at work and although it was "designed for XP" and is "Vista ready" it came from corporate IT preinstalled with 2K, and she's had to fight to allow them to install very expensive lab equipment that requires XP on the controller PC.
Don't think she'll be seeing Vista there any day soon, 2K was only deployed in late 2005.
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Yeah, which is too bad, it could have been a neat statement.
Not that it would put you in a very good position should you actually ever need support.
My take on Vista is what has already been said: It is clearly not designed for the end user. With their virtual stranglehold of the market in place, they chose not to focus on the user in this version but instead focused on ways to make things more amenable to Big Corporate Greed, hence the DRM, licensing terms, activation, the bowing down to movie studios, etc.
I watched the Bill Gates interview on the Daily Show where he talked about using families as focus groups, like somehow this was a value-added feature that Microsoft was so thoughtful to do.
That's what Steve Jobs is better at. Apple designs products that really do have the user in mind, first and foremost. And where they don't, Steve manages to convince you that it's what you really wanted, anyway.
While a good image, you know that the type of corporate buyers we're talking about don't have one CD per license, right?
FWIW my wife works for a big company and just got a new HP notebook at work and although it was "designed for XP" and is "Vista ready" it came from corporate IT preinstalled with 2K, and she's had to fight to allow them to install very expensive lab equipment that requires XP on the controller PC.
Don't think she'll be seeing Vista there any day soon, 2K was only deployed in late 2005.
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WOW talk about being behind the times, but they must know something we dont... oh wait nope they are just reconfirming our already confirmed expiriences that MS OS's are well not what they say they are (stable, reliable, and worth a crap).
Nice job Bill.
Vista is a SuperFortress!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/01/vista_voice_recognition_attack/
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2148
Vista is a SuperFortress!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/01/vista_voice_recognition_attack/
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2148
"YOU'RE STEALING FROM US!"
Oh wait, that wasn't Bill...
I hope everyone here knows Apple didn't invent the GUI...
Many thanks Xerox.
I hope everyone here knows Apple didn't invent the GUI...
Many thanks Xerox.
Windows didn't copy Apple, anyway (at least not at first) -- it was Visicalc (remember them?) and their GUI product, VisiOn.
I think that in his nervousness, he accidentally mixed up the words "Mac" and "Windows"
As someone else mentionned, I think he was refering to the Apple Month of Bugs thing. While I'm a bit more of an Apple fan, I'm actually glad when each companiy points out the shortcomings in each other. It creates pressure for both to improve, which is good for consumers.
And I'm actually looking forward to buying a copy of the next MS Office. I'm using a really old version right now. Microsoft should just get over some people not wanting Windows, and focus on giving us reasons to pay them for Office:mac.
Oh, and a newbie question, but does Parallels require a Windows installation, or does it use a variant of Wine?
No, Parallels is nothing to do with WiNE. It's a virtualization system, so you need to a copy of Windows to install on a Virtual Machine. CrossoverMac is the most talked-about WiNE system currently. I've used it, and it's not too shabby (but not as flexible as Parallels).
Very well said!
He does not like to loose regardless of the venue be it poker or anything his company is interested in developing or doing.
Bill Gates view of history is creative needless to say.
He really sounds concerned about what Apple is doing right now.
I am looking forward to seeing the first Vista virus!
It's called "Windows Vista".