President must have a big distaste for big-tech. Why on earth would the President of the United States care if one store went unionized?
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Thanks but I get all that. There are any number of reasons and opinions on why this could cause a mass store exodus. This seems to be the fall back position for many against “opening” up install options. What we are not seeing is anything historical (ex: Android) that supports this action and devs/dev houses jumping up and saying they are. Just trying to understand why so many are sure this is “going to happen”. Oh, and the malware invasion too.
But there is current and historical evidence on how crappy things are and were without and before app stores. Trillion dollar malware industry. Sky high prices. Scams. Variable pricing. Discount codes. Tracking.
Perhaps you meant to post this in the "President Biden Praises Apple Employees in Maryland for Unionizing" comments section??
Anyway, I don't think Biden's statement reflected him being anti-big tech. It was about him being very pro-union. Biden has been quoted as saying, "I intend to be the most pro-union president leading the most pro-union administration in American history."
The fact that this was somewhat of a local story (Towson Apple Store is less than 60 miles from DC) may have given it extra Washington attention too. However, Biden would likely praise employees of any company (regardless of size or industry) who were looking to unionize.
That is what SHOULD have happened, had the regulators done that, Apples' compliance might have happened sooner. By being suitably vague they left the ball in Apples court to try to appease them. This may also have been a tactic in order to not risk a higher court ruling (yet) which would have set future precedent for other app categories if it ruled in Apples favor.
Streaming TV services are one area where mass exodus has/does happen and could also happen to both Apple AND Android if stores were to operate in niche fields e.g. creative app store, audio app store etc..
Of course it remains to be seen, and it's also likely that whoever decides to open up the first, tries to incentivize devs by charging less. Which may result in them finding out pretty soon that it's not profitable to both create and maintain a store at the level of the current app store.
What could happen at that point is that Apple are forced to "rent" their infrastructure at a reduced rate to allow others enter the market (like happened to telephony services).
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If I were Apple, I would charge above market prices and let those who want 3rd party app stores find out the grass isn't greener.
If governments stepped in and de-regulated app stores opposite would most likely happen (like with telco's), they would probably mandated to offer near at-cost services so small fish could become "entrepreneurs" on the back of someone else's hard work.
Sad, but historically thats whats happened, along with shoddy customer service and re-sellers not having a clue about the actual technical aspects of the business they got into.
If this scenario came to pass, and if a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of such a law was upheld.
Yup.
Nah, you're literally ignoring every factual response, including what developers have tried to do with apps and can't and what they've literally said they'll do if given the option. You are terrible at this.
Believe what you want.
I am seeing a lot of opinion and some niche events held up as proof that “This is what will happen!”. If forced we don’t even know what Apple’s solution will be.
As a former dev, I would do all of the above. App Store if allowed. Alternative stores if allowed. Personal web page. Etc.
Nah. I would rather believe what developers have actually experienced over the years, such as countless examples of apps being rejected because Apple says so.
Apple will fight for whatever gives them more revenue and profits … the best well being of customers is secondary.
Currently the policies are aligned to give them the most profits considering the current legislation. Change the legislation the objective does not change.
Why are they fighting the legislation? Because they fear it will impact their revenue and profits in the digital service space. It takes from them the ability o model the friction between their digital services and comparing offers.
Currently the policies are aligned to give them the most profits considering the current legislation. Change the legislation the objective does not change.
Why are they fighting the legislation? Because they fear it will impact their revenue and profits in the digital service space. It takes from them the ability o model the friction between their digital services and comparing offers.
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The best thing for Apple to do is align their profit making abilities to what consumers want.
Apple will first follow the laws. Second maximize the customer experience within that framework and then price accordingly.
First you disagree. Then write something as if opposing but that we both agree its the way forward.
Apple privacy is a total hoax. Sure its better than FB and Google, but read their privacy policy+CSAM all show that "privacy" is just a marketing scheme they use but its not real. I no longer feel safe using Apple software and would not trust them.
Tosdr.org gave them a rating of E which is the similar rating of Facebook
Tosdr.org gave them a rating of E which is the similar rating of Facebook
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I don’t have a problem with apples privacy. I read the tos and I’ve downloaded data they have collected on me. Csam scanning is coming everywhere imo, but is not related to privacy. Privacy is the handling of your PII. If you don’t feel safe using apple software, doesn’t leave you anywhere to go.Apple privacy is a total hoax. Sure its better than FB and Google, but read their privacy policy+CSAM all show that "privacy" is just a marketing scheme they use but its not real. I no longer feel safe using Apple software and would not trust them.
Tosdr.org gave them a rating of E which is the similar rating of Facebook
not true
there is FOSS software to use.
Operating system: Linux with a lot of varieties
phone: GrapheneOS and CalyxOS
app store: FDroid
router firmware: OpenWRT
MS Office: OpenOffice
Photoshop: GIMP
browser: Firefox , Brave
just some examples
Sure. That sounds like it’s part of PII. Isnt PII more than ones name and cc information? https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/personally-identifiable-information-pii.asp
Location data as it relates to something like a home address, sure. As far as being at a particular store or medical facility for instance, no.
To use apple as an example, I would think that anything apple collects about you whether entered or derived is PII. Now the cell phone company may know you’re at a medical facility based on the connection information of the nearest tower but that obviously is out of apples control.
I wasn’t saying anything with regard to Apple specifically, only that there’s more to privacy than just PII.