I came from Ad Guard (paid version), and now using wipr + Control-D. It’s been few weeks and the experience is much better (lighter and faster) than Ad Guard (it’s also faster than nextdns.io).
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Do you like using non apple browsers on the Mac?
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At home I don't see the point of using non-Mac browsers, as Safari works fine in 99% of the websites I browse.
At work, I already have to use a Windows PC workstation, so any work correspondence (email, browsing, Excel, Powerpoints, the occasional work related research, etc) is done through Windows, Microsoft Edge and Outlook anyways.
And fortunately, I don't "take my work home". My work requires me to be present at the hospital, so there is no such thing as remote work or working from home for me.
P.S. -- I'm not totally anti-Microsoft either. I actually like (prefer) using the Outlook Email client on my iPhone and iPad (it beats the **** out of default Apple Mail). And yes, I would use Outlook anyday over Gmail Whatever.
I use Brave, Firefox and Waterfox at home. Brave, Firefox and Vivaldi at work.
I do it to separate my online shopping from banking from entertainment, some browsers I add loads of privacy plugins to and others I leave as is, I find ( for reasons I cannot understand ) Safari seems awkward. Vivaldi is IMO the most customisable browser I have seen in ages, it does have a learning curve.
I do it to separate my online shopping from banking from entertainment, some browsers I add loads of privacy plugins to and others I leave as is, I find ( for reasons I cannot understand ) Safari seems awkward. Vivaldi is IMO the most customisable browser I have seen in ages, it does have a learning curve.
I am the new owner of this forum member's Mac. I have taken over. I'm coming for you next.If you value your bank more than your own privacy and security then good for you.
OK, I've installed WIPR, but I'm not sure how safe it is to turn on WIPR Extra, where it can see my passwords etc.
Do the people here who use WIPR, also turn on WIPR Extra ?
Do the people here who use WIPR, also turn on WIPR Extra ?
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Let us stop at this statement "Safari is an Apple only product now". So unless all websites of interest are run by Apple there is no need for us to expect that it should work 100% on Safari, because not everyone wants to buy an Apple product and test everything again.
And if it doesn't work then the best browser I know is Chrome, it is fast and very compatible. Even most government (Canadian and most US state websites) don't work well with Safari.
As for MS Outlook if it is just for email POP/IMAP then there could be better alternatives, but if you need Active Exchange services (notes, calendar etc) then it is a must. Have you seen the search functionality in Apple Mail? It is garbage, it really is... wildcards and partial matching is non-functional even in 2023.
Yes. Oriion is definitely not a finished product. I run into links that won't open. I like Safari because it is a finished browser and because of the integration with iCloud. I am a browser agnostic really. I like Chrome because it quite fast and pages just work. I know that Google harvests data. That is just something that I don't dwell on. I will say that Orion is just a bit quicker than Safari (maybe), and I have been using it for the past couple of days.I just downloaded Orion. I liked what people said in this thread, that it is better Safari and wanted to give it a try, I loved Safari until it was crippled.
First site that I wanted to visit with it was this forum and already problems, when I click on notifications and click on one of them, nothing happens, just infinite loading.
Not good first impression for me.
EDIT: works now. But it says it's in beta, so I guess some things can be forgiven. I'll keep it for now.
Originally Orion didn't even work with streaming services like Disney+ until after compatibility mode was turned on for those sites.
You can enable wipr extra on certain website only (in my case, on YouTube only).
Well, I'm sorry to report that WIPR isn't any better than Ad Guard.
It's okay for the main global websites, but once you're off the well beaten track and move to the regional ones, then it's a bit flaky. It would've been good if it was free, but as a paid option, I wouldn't recommend WIPR.
Nothing really beats uBlock Origin, but as you all probably know, it stopped working on Safari since version 13, alas.
Pretty much this. So I ended up with Firefox several years ago, because of ublock origin, container tabs, loads of useful extensions and so on.
That's right. But it is supported in the Safari like browser Orion. You might want to check it out.
Yes, I did, but I'm not sure about trusting the password wallet.
Orion's blazingly fast though, no doubt about that
Magic Lasso for ad blocking is the right choice FYI. Clean, simple, privacy-focused, and independently owned and developed and free of corporate demands and interests.
Faster than Safari, not sure about Firefox: I gave up on Firefox ever since vimperator stopped working on it. I miss Vimperator dearly.
My major problem with Safari is that the Back button is flaky. It appears to load the previous page, but then repaints the current page.
Weird.
Works fine for me. My problem with Safari is the lame "out of memory" error I get sometimes on FB.
Looks like I might give it a try, but, I’d miss the SMS and Keychain password integration
After updating to latest version of Big Sur, favicon in Safari are all white; since then I use Orion as default browser. It’s lighter than Safari. It has also built in adblocker.
Not to mention Private Relay, Hide My Email integration, Sign-In with Apple etc.
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To OP,
To each his own but Safari is like the worst of the bunch. I can't give real world test, but apple claims its the "lightest" browser and maybe its most efficient on their devices but other browsers are way superior in the foss, privacy, extensions, and more department.
You are delusional. Safari is non cross platform (Apple device only) , has the worst extensions, and is closed source software where you never know what is going on in the background or what they are collecting or tracking about you.
Which Adguard? the app? or the extension? You are using Control-D as a dns server?
To each his own but Safari is like the worst of the bunch. I can't give real world test, but apple claims its the "lightest" browser and maybe its most efficient on their devices but other browsers are way superior in the foss, privacy, extensions, and more department.
You are delusional. Safari is non cross platform (Apple device only) , has the worst extensions, and is closed source software where you never know what is going on in the background or what they are collecting or tracking about you.
Which Adguard? the app? or the extension? You are using Control-D as a dns server?
I have multiple browsers installed, i tend to use safari for work and brave for everything else.
I am not network expert, but Private relay (which adds more routes to the network's traffic) in theory should be slower AFAIK