But probably not harder than building a rocket from scratch that lands itself, ya ?
I'm pretty sure Musk didn't design that himself.
But probably not harder than building a rocket from scratch that lands itself, ya ?
C’mon he made the offer at 44 bn USD which valued the company at over the stock price, the stock price has nothing to do with the value of the deal. It’s unlikely he’ll be able to adjust the value of the deal without good reason, such as there being a lot more false accounts than what Twitter has said.
How does that work? He doesn't own twitter yet.
Bolded:He's realizing it's a bad business deal. He won't be able to manipulate the market like he wanted when the recession hits in a few weeks.
People sometimes confuse ignorance or stupidity with evil. In the end it's all just fear. All people who succumb to fear will inevitably act in ways that are perceived negatively.If there's so many, please, do enlighten.
Let's hear how EV Tesla is worse than all other car manufacturers morally. I would be curious.
Let's hear how exploring space is a maniacal endeavor.
Let's hear how ostensibly opening up free speech instead of letting some anonymous partisan dweebs decide what can be read, said, and thought would be the downfall of the downtrodden West.
Here's the other rules, these are automatically exempt and disqualifying:
-copying and pasting URL's to rage filled clickbait articles, use your own words and thoughts if you can
-spicy tweets of no consequence
-projection/mind reading
-silly photos used a central argument, see below:
Sure, I'll play. Some of the reasons are:
- Buying multiple startups, then pretending like he founded them (Paypal, Tesla)
- Pretending he's self-made even though he entered the game already filthy rich
- Pushing retarded uneconomical "innovations" just to please his ego (hyperloop)
- Being blatantly against worker's rights just to keep his profits up
Just because the users and accounts themselves are not spam or bots does not mean that a large proportion of the posts on twitter are not spam or bots. A typical user can be identified as non bot, but how they post could rise to bot and spam. We deal with this nuance with advertising all the time. There are known bad IP addresses and then there is known automated traffic from infected computers that have both normal human and bot traffic that is atypical.
He's actually likely to piss off certain investors to the point they reject the current deal in-favor of demanding more money for the platform. I think I agree with others speculating that he never had genuine intent to make the acquisition. Sadly, this sort of thing is much more common in realestate transactions. He also puts himself in significant legal jeopardy as he has already voiced commitment to the acquisition publicly and to retract his offer without reasonable cause could result in any number of potential suits against him by Twitter and it's shareholders.
This honestly just wreaks of amateur hour and it just highlights how just because someone has a vision does not mean they are the best one's to implement or manage it.
Shady clown, conducting a shady circus
I still like the posts that appeared on celebrity accounts after the celebrities died.Just because the users and accounts themselves are not spam or bots does not mean that a large proportion of the posts on twitter are not spam or bots. A typical user can be identified as non bot, but how they post could rise to bot and spam. We deal with this nuance with advertising all the time. There are known bad IP addresses and then there is known automated traffic from infected computers that have both normal human and bot traffic that is atypical.
You do realize that overstating the company's value (downplaying fake account numbers) is serious and something the buying party has to (or is that should?) take into account. Pausing to verify the numbers is no big thing.
Let's see what happens when the numbers are verified.
The guy is just a glorified marketer. No serious entrepreneur or corporate leader can possibly keep their eyes on as many balls as he has in the air with all the companies he's management affiliated with. If it was just Tesla... ok fine. But Tesla and SpaceX alone.... sorry way too much going on with both companies to even pretend to be effectively overseeing or managing those businesses. It's likely all delegated to another C-Level within each company and he just remains chief spokes person and marketer.
The problem arises when he talks and talks and puts his foot in his mouth or the mouths of those other C-Level execs. Granted I will concede I don't follow the happenings of this fellow much at all so I could be entirely off key here.
No surprise here: Twitter stock is down, Tesla stock is up.
You do realize that overstating the company's value (downplaying fake account numbers) is serious and something the buying party has to (or is that should?) take into account. Pausing to verify the numbers is no big thing.
Let's see what happens when the numbers are verified.
However, if I am not mistaken, Elon made an offer about 10-15 dollars above market value for the acquisition. This is not as common as it might seem but it is a means to convince share holders to approve of the deal.
Even Steve Jobs was unable to effectively manage Pixar and one other company at a time. And all Pixar had to do was put out one animated movie every couple of years. I have dealt with CEOs that run multiple companies in the past and these companies are always in dire straights until they delegate some sort of independent management teams to run them. In my experience there is no personality trait that makes someone an effective multi-disciplined micromanager at any scale beyond a small business.
By making an offer to acquire the company at a higher market price the intent would be to artificially drive up the stock price during the acquisition period and then unload any holdings he might have in Twitter to profit from the scheme. It's sadly common.
But he is a fool for doing something like this so publicly... if that was his intent all along. He should never have confirmed or denied any action or intent publicly.
The thing is, telling everyone he has doubts about the numbers certain wouldn't help him, and he hasn't dumped anything either. So I still don't understand how this would be a pump and dump.I mean he already purchased ~9%. That along with the initial talks about purchasing outright, the stock shot way up.
He even talked about ‘reconsidering His stake’ if the board rejected his buyout offer.
Although now I’m checking it, admittedly over the last week the stock’s plummeted again so maybe it’s not so bulletproof a theory ?
And that plan may be blowing up in his face. Musk is rich, but even he is not that rich to overpay like that.
Im pretty musk wont be running twitter himself.I'm pretty sure Musk didn't design that himself.
The thing is, telling everyone he has doubts about the numbers certain wouldn't help him, and he hasn't dumped anything either. So I still don't understand how this would be a pump and dump.
If anything, it arguably could be the other way around.
Maybe, but that's not a pump and dump.Elon has been critical of the platform for some time. The acquisition was no labor of love that is for certain. However, if he were so passionate about effecting change in the platform through acquisition then he'd not disparage or disrupt the deal prior to completing the transaction. Reason being none of it plays in his favor, unless he never had genuine intent to acquire, in which case this is just par for the course.
In tandem he may have been considering dumping or shorting the stock in the process to both profit from the endeavor financially and getting is proverbial "rocks off" by damaging an entity he has little love for. Based on his public posts I would find such behavior credible and unsurprising.