EU Planning to Force Apple to Give Developers Access to All Hardware and Software Features

[I7guy]

at least 20 companies have been listed as example of different companies that will be covered by the DMA. So I would guess 50 something companies are likely affected. But Spotify and Netflix won't be covered, etc.

Table 4: Core Platform Services provided by selected companies by Bruegel .org - Infogram

infogram.com

But this is from december 2021.

Looks like FAANG with the rules being written for Apple.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

Looks like FAANG with the rules being written for Apple.

Being written for everyone else, apple isn't the biggest target. More written for Google if you want to argue anyone being targeted. And of the FAANG, Netflix are excluded.

• Online search engines (e.g. Google Search)
• Online intermediation services (e.g. Google Play, App Store)
• Social networks (e.g. Facebook)
• Video sharing platforms (e.g. YouTube)
• Communication platforms (e.g. WhatsApp, Gmail)
• Operating systems (e.g. Google Android, iOS)
• Cloud services (e.g. Google Cloud Platform)
• Advertising services (e.g. Google Ads)

Sectors	Dominant company	Share of the EU market[22]
Desktop OS	Microsoft Windows	78%
Web browsers	Google Chrome	60%
Search	Google Search	95%
Social media	Facebook	90%
E-commerce	Amazon	30% share of users and 60% in terms of market revenues
Travel/booking	Booking.com	35%
Video streaming	Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, HBO, Sky and Dazn	90% of the market revenues
Audio streaming	Spotify Apple Music/Amazon Music	55% 25%
Mobile OS (global market)[26]	Google Android, Apple iOS	72% 27%

 

[I7guy]

Being written for everyone else, apple isn't the biggest target. More written for Google if you want to argue anyone being targeted. And of the FAANG, Netflix are excluded.

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The above, which I snipped for brevity, doesn't pass the "sniff test" as the saying goes.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

The above, which I snipped for brevity, doesn't pass the "sniff test" as the saying goes.

And how doesn't it passes the "sniff test"?
Google have paid billions in anticompetitive actions, and they are the one most affected by both the DMA and the DSA on almost every core platform category. Apple have one CPS covered.

Netflix are explicitly not covered as they dont fulfill the criterias, same with spotify

 

[I7guy]

And how doesn't it passes the "sniff test"?
Google have paid billions in anticompetitive actions, and they are the one most affected by both the DMA and the DSA on almost every core platform category. Apple have one CPS covered.

Netflix are explicitly not covered as they dont fulfill the criterias, same with spotify

Yep, that is why the above doesn't pass the "sniff test". Spotify with the most subscribers in the world should be regulated in the EU as well; but because it's EU based...it won't be. The laws were surgically crafted.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

Yep, that is why the above doesn't pass the "sniff test". Spotify with the most subscribers in the world should be regulated in the EU as well; but because it's EU based...it won't be. The laws were surgically crafted.

in the list i gave you there are multiple EU companies that will be covered.
susch as SAP, zalando and Vivendi. how would you think spotify should be regulated when they dont have a core platform or gatekeeping anything

 

[BaldiMac]

whell when it comes to the USA, the law is fairuse

How the Supreme Court saved the software industry from API copyrights

The Supreme Court surprised everyone with its API copyright ruling.

arstechnica.com

In Europe, the Software Directive (2009/24/EC) states that ideas and principles underlying any element of a computer program, including those underlying its interfaces, are not protected by copyright and was ruled by the EUCJ in 2012 in SAS Institute, Inc. v World Programming Limited (C-406/10) to rule that APIs are not protected by copyright because they are functional in nature

sure not accessing the servers, but would just need the ability to communicate with their servers.

Fair use and lack of copyright for APIs have nothing at all to do with what we are discussing. Neither prevent Apple from putting conditions on third-party access to their platform.