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Here Are All the M3 Macs Still Expected This Year
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While the Mac mini likely does sell low volumes, there is no way those numbers are accurate. I don’t for a second believe the Mac Pro outsells the Mac mini and Mac Studio 11:1 in terms of units sold.
Yes but it was one (or two) MacBook Air form factor vs multiple MacBook Pro form factors.
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This picture clearly points to a marketing deficiency that Apple currently has. Look at the following pie chart.Earlier this week, Apple announced new 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Air models, the first Mac updates of the year featuring M3 series chips. But there are other Macs in Apple's lineup still to be updated to the latest M3 processors.
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This clearly points out that Apple made a big mistake, consumers and businesses actually prefer the iMac compared to the Mac mini and Mac Studio believe it or not. All Apple needs to do is to come out with a larger iMac using a better M3 processor and it would really jack up Mac sales a lot.
Also to be fair updated Mac mini and Studio Mac with M3 updates would sell more also.
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Wild guess: that pie is probably measuring REVENUE vs. units sold.
If that is units, iMac is king of the Mac desktop and thus would likely offer not just a 27" variant with the 24", but probably 30" and 32"+ too. Instead, it "feels" like the least important Mac or at least competes with the Pro for that 'crown.'
It's also a commonplace belief that MBair is best selling Mac... which should have some added subjective fuel by being cheapest laptop to woo those most swayed by price. So its slice on a units sold basis seems like it would have to be better than the more expensive MBpro.
But if you make a pie about revenue, wouldn't about all of those slices seem to make sense?
If that is units, iMac is king of the Mac desktop and thus would likely offer not just a 27" variant with the 24", but probably 30" and 32"+ too. Instead, it "feels" like the least important Mac or at least competes with the Pro for that 'crown.'
It's also a commonplace belief that MBair is best selling Mac... which should have some added subjective fuel by being cheapest laptop to woo those most swayed by price. So its slice on a units sold basis seems like it would have to be better than the more expensive MBpro.
But if you make a pie about revenue, wouldn't about all of those slices seem to make sense?
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I don;t think comparing Mac Pro to the others is very valid especially since they introduced Mac Studio. It has seemed pretty clear since the introduction that Mac Pro was beginning its descent into computer extinction. With studio being what it is, it makes sense to drop it.
You must be strong through these difficult times. Our thoughts are with you.
Still waiting for the Space Gray MacBook Pro M3 Pro/Max. I'll be waiting forever, but that's ok, Apple can wait for my money while I wait 👍
An 18 month cycle would suggest an M3 Mac mini in June 2024 at WWDC, not an M4 in Spring 2025. Barring any TSMC production issues, it makes sense for Apple to update the mini now and save the Mac Studio and Mac Pro for WWDC.
Sorry I’m really trying hard not to be mean but anyone who believes CIRPs data is a complete fool. They are a laughingstock. Do you not possess an ounce of media literacy or critical thinking skills? The idea that the Mac Pro outsells the Mac mini 11 to 1 is absurd. Think before you post. Your post should be flagged for misinformation.
This is completely false, junk data. Please tell me you don’t actually believe these data are accurate?This picture clearly points to a marketing deficiency that Apple currently has. Look at the following pie chart.
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Of the desktop sales, the M2 Mac mini and M2 Mac Studio are the worse sellers with 1% each. Surprising the Mac Pro has 3% and the 24" iMac is at 4%. The MBA and MBP are the clear winners currently as they can be acquired over a wide price range.
This clearly points out that Apple made a big mistake, consumers and businesses actually prefer the iMac compared to the Mac mini and Mac Studio believe it or not. All Apple needs to do is to come out with a larger iMac using a better M3 processor and it would really jack up Mac sales a lot.
Also to be fair updated Mac mini and Studio Mac with M3 updates would sell more also.
I suspect selection bias in those numbers, no way the MP outsells the mini, let alone by that much. Costco sells the mini for $400 often, the MP is $7000, and most corp buyers it’s targeted at buy laptops at far higher numbers than desktops.
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I added the larger screenshot with date.
No big surprise that MBA & MBP sell the most. Laptops selling ~80% of all computers has been a trend since as early as 2003.
What is surprising is that the Mac Pro sold that much in spite of M1 chips coming out earlier in November 2020 quarter. People buying the Mac Pro were aware of Apple Silicon transition.
I would have expected Mac mini taking 2nd highest and Mac Studio & Mac Pro taking 3rd or 4th respectively.
Why? Because of price. The 2019 Mac Pro Xeon started at $5k while Mac mini is $500 & Mac Studio $2k.
Which brings us to why Apple only has one screen size for the iMac. All other Macs with a built-in screen have a "small" and "big" screen.
5 years ago the 2019 Pro Display XDR 32" 6K was released for $5k.
The likely reason a "big" iMac is that the parts price for a 32" 6K has not gone down to ~$500.
Historically display prices have gone down over time. That's why that big screen you are using was bought. It fit into your budget.
Apple claiming that a iMac 27" 5K will never come out is legally true.
But, once prices drops to allow for a $1799 price point then a iMac 32" 6K is a future probability.
The question is when....
It took a decade for the iPhone to get an AMOLED display due to technical and parts price reason.
Apple stated it took them that long because of burn-in issues and color accuracy. Apple does not want bad press on defects & they cater to a different market to Android that is largely creatives that require color accuracy.
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Yes that is against sales
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I didn't say I 100% believe and trust those numbers. That's why I wrote "reportedly"
In case you don't know what "reportedly" means
Reportedly
adverb:
- according to what some say (used to express the speaker's belief that the information given is not necessarily true)
If you believe those numbers are wrong, then feel free to provide something that refutes them.
7k resolution or $7k price?
Historically it is a certainty Apple will focus on lowering MSRP with the future panel rather than a spec bump.
If Apple is able to drop 32" 6K to the prices of 2021 Apple Studio Display 27" 5K then people will rejoice.
If a 2024 iMac 32" 6K M4 dropped by Oct 2024 I'd be the 1st one to pre-order to replace my 2012 iMac 27" 2.5K.
That's a dozen years of tech improvement from a 22nm Intel chip to a 3nm Mac chip.
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Mac Studio for me. HEAT kills a computer over time and the studio has superior cooling over a MacBook Pro. dont need portability. and 64gb of ram and double the CPU and cores I might get the ULTRA M3 Version.
WWDC in June I expect we can buy this.
WWDC in June I expect we can buy this.
Emacs is going to run like butter on the M3
Cant wait to get the M3 Mac Pro with 128 GB RAM
Its going to be flying
Cant wait to get the M3 Mac Pro with 128 GB RAM
Its going to be flying
What baffles me is that the update schedule is still pretty eratic despite them now having transitioned to Apple Silicon on all devices. There doesn't really seem to be much logic to update cycles and the length of support will turn out shorter if they have yearly update cycles… which flies in the face of their Mother Nature campaign…
I don't want to see environmental claims if at the end of the day update cycles are directly opposed to sustainability.
I don't want to see environmental claims if at the end of the day update cycles are directly opposed to sustainability.
