The worse thing would be to replace the firewire spot with all those card reader slots (SD, Compact flash, etc...).
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Intel Macs - More USB, Still with Firewire?
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I agree, I think the orginal "FireWire is getting dropped" rumor was pretty irresponsible of Ogrady's PowerPage any way. It was more of a preditiction, not a solid rumor, and it just took off on the Web.
For all the reasons described here, loosing FireWire now would be a very very bad idea. I fully believe Apple will keep it until all new shipping camcorders (including high-end!) are on something else (if ever).
For all the reasons described here, loosing FireWire now would be a very very bad idea. I fully believe Apple will keep it until all new shipping camcorders (including high-end!) are on something else (if ever).
0MGZ GUYS!!! We NEED FireWire to go! It's the only way to make PBs thinner! Isn't this the right concept here? Someone using what happened with the iPods?
plastique45 said:
I was thinking that too until I looked at my 3G iPod and saw no second firewire port to daisy chain it.
Keep the Modem, Ethernet and FireWire Ports
Personally, I take my iBook everywhere. The Modem is very usefull for sending and recieving faxes, and connecting to the 'net in places where there is no wireless or broadband connection.
The Ethernet port is good for connecting to networks that don't have wireless, or even just to another computer (I always carry a patch cable).
The Firewire port is great for connect two mac's, for connecting to my DV cam and external drives.
I love the fact that I have the option, even though I don't always fill the ports.
Cinch said:boo-hoo-hoo, i'm not sympathetic.
The way i see it is one less ungainly hole to see on a cute iBook or PB. While they are at it, get rid of the modem port and ethernet port too. Give me a beautiful stylist laptop with long battery life and wireless access.
Let not cater to people who like to stick every which wires that they can find to their laptop.
Cinch
Personally, I take my iBook everywhere. The Modem is very usefull for sending and recieving faxes, and connecting to the 'net in places where there is no wireless or broadband connection.
The Ethernet port is good for connecting to networks that don't have wireless, or even just to another computer (I always carry a patch cable).
The Firewire port is great for connect two mac's, for connecting to my DV cam and external drives.
I love the fact that I have the option, even though I don't always fill the ports.
radiskull said:
Exactly. macosxrumors.com is pretty good. And they don't put out many outlandish rumors. macosrumors.com on the other hand is complete drivel. Their latest hypothesis is that OS X (non-server) will split into 2 OSes: MacOS X and MacOSXi, one for pros, one for consumers. That's typical, and they reprint other's rumors, pre-date-stamp them, and make them sound like their own "sources." They need to be taken down.
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FireWire has consistent speed, speed claimed by USB 2.0 is rated as burst speed. In the real world, even FW400 has much better performance than USB 2.0, no need to even mention FW800.
That's the reason why you very very rarely see if not never see digital camcorder uses USB for video transfer. (Most USB ports on the DV camcorders are for using it as a USB webcam not for video capture or transfer, such as Canon).
If Apple decides to drop FW ports, then there is no need for them even to ship iMovie with the machine at all. I don't understand why people could possibly think this rumor is creditable. Apple could be brain dead if they do that.
That's the reason why you very very rarely see if not never see digital camcorder uses USB for video transfer. (Most USB ports on the DV camcorders are for using it as a USB webcam not for video capture or transfer, such as Canon).
If Apple decides to drop FW ports, then there is no need for them even to ship iMovie with the machine at all. I don't understand why people could possibly think this rumor is creditable. Apple could be brain dead if they do that.
johnnyjibbs said:
Not exactly... I saw in 'Macaddict" that the iSight in the iMac G5 is connected via USB... hmmm
Relax everyone. Apple's new Intel machines will all ship with FireWire 400 support. There is no reason not to, and many reasons to do (stated above). Perhaps they will/could drop FW800 in favor of external SATA conntecor? FW800 has not taken off at all really, so there would be no harm in pulling that plug. FW400 seems like it's here to stay. FW400 is just as good as USB 2.0, if not better. I know USB 2.0 has theoretical higher transfer rates, but in real life I think that FW400 beats it out.
Randall said:
Firewire easily beats USB on transfer speed. Thats why camcorders use it. I would doubt they would put an external SAT connector on a laptop.
If all this is true, then I am extremely happy. I don't want to see FireWire go anywhere any time soon. As far as the battle between FireWire and USB 2.0... FireWire wins hands down, technically speaking.
Cybernanga said:
Well, you should keep hold of you iBook then!
I was freakin out for about 2 seconds till i realised - this doesn't REALLY affect me that much, if USB2 is the way forward, then Apple will sort us out. If they continue with firewire, then they will - the truth is we won't know till MWSF at the earliest, and our current macs wont all suddenly morph into non-firewire supporting behemoths, will they?
Sure. I said that FW400 beats out USB 2.0, even though USB 2.0 has higher theoretical burst transfer rates then FireWire 400 does.NYmacAttack said:
Why do you think that they would not put eSATA connectors on a laptop? It beats the hell out of FireWire 400 for external hard drives, and it seems to me like it has more of a future then FireWire 800, which I still have yet to see any devices for it. However, I have seen many new external hard drives have support for external SATA connectors.
So I say, keep FW400, and replace FW800 with external SATA. It makes sense.
USB 2.0 = 480Mb/s
Firewire 400 = 400Mb/s
Firewire 800 = 800Mb/s
SATA = 1,200Mb/s or 3,000Mb/s
I think he was saying why don't the camcorders ship with a 4-pin to 6-pin connector. The 4-pin connector makes perfect sense to use with electronics that aren't utilizing the power feature of FireWire, since the 4-pin connector is small and low profile, it integrates well with modern electronics that continue to get smaller and more advanced.Sunrunner said:
Bastich said:And don't forget about all those Firewire iPods still floating around out there. Remember those? If thousands of people bought a brand new MacIntel only to find out it's incompatible with their iPod, there would be hell to pay. No, Apple will have to wait a couple years yet before pulling the old forced-upgrade trick.
Agreed. I still have a B&W 4G iPod that I dearly love - and FW is my primary connection method.