General iOS11 location service icon on all the time

[chillip]

For me it's weather also, but it only shows the hollow icon while my apple watch is connected. If i disconnect the watch, the hollow weather icon goes away.
Strange.

Same for me

 

[Badagri]

On my iPad Pro the location awareness is totally screwed up. It cannot set timezone, cannot find the weather or such other services.

I cannot get location services to work. Everything is on but apps say location cannot be found. Clock update keeps cycling as well for Time Zone on the iPad Pro.

I’ve reset location, reset network, rebooted, you name it tried every fault check to rectify and cannot sort it. Apps cannot find my location.
[doublepost=1506001498][/doublepost]Done all this and still the same problems.

FIrst try turning location services off. Then reboot your iPad & turn it back On,

Check to see that in Settings that Date & Time & Language & Region are correct.

Check to see that in Restrictions, location services haven't been disabled.

Open a Map app and see if it can pinpoint where you are.

If you still are having problems do a General Reset:

Settings->General->Reset->Reset All Settings,

You will have to log back into your wifi network(s) & customize certain settings but won't lose any data

Vs the iPhone and date/time is working, location is working but it is busted on the iPad. The arrow only shows on the iPhone when something uses it then dissapears. Unlike the iPad Pro that is stuck and cannot set the time as the cog keeps cycling. Looks like I’ll have to do a full restore...

 

[ck2875]

For me it's weather also, but it only shows the hollow icon while my apple watch is connected. If i disconnect the watch, the hollow weather icon goes away.
Strange.

Same for me

Is one of your complications on the watch for the weather? Do you have background app refresh on for weather on the watch?

Edit: Just checked the settings on mine. I had background refresh on and no hollow arrow. Waking up watch with weather complication turned it solid for a few second and went back to gray in privacy settings on my phone.

If nothing else, you might try re-pairing the watch to the phone.

 

[willdude]

I have the weather complication on my watch, with background app refresh for weather enabled on both watch and phone, and location set to "Always". A couple times today I've caught my phone and watch with the filled-in location icon, which stayed that way. Going to weather's location service settings, and switching it to "Never" then back to "Always" makes it clear out then go back to the hollow location icon. But it seems like after a while it just goes back to being filled in again, and not going hollow. Not sure what's going on.

 

[marvz]

For me it's weather also, but it only shows the hollow icon while my apple watch is connected. If i disconnect the watch, the hollow weather icon goes away.
Strange.

Yes.. and I think my iPhone's battery is draining faster than with iOS 10.. hope it will be fixed soon.
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Is one of your complications on the watch for the weather? Do you have background app refresh on for weather on the watch?

Edit: Just checked the settings on mine. I had background refresh on and no hollow arrow. Waking up watch with weather complication turned it solid for a few second and went back to gray in privacy settings on my phone.

If nothing else, you might try re-pairing the watch to the phone.

I tried it too. I used a watch face with no weather complication but it still displayed the location arrow for weather.
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I have the weather complication on my watch, with background app refresh for weather enabled on both watch and phone, and location set to "Always". A couple times today I've caught my phone and watch with the filled-in location icon, which stayed that way. Going to weather's location service settings, and switching it to "Never" then back to "Always" makes it clear out then go back to the hollow location icon. But it seems like after a while it just goes back to being filled in again, and not going hollow. Not sure what's going on.

I notice exactly the same behaviour.

I will unpair and pair my AW again now and see if it changes something.

 

[mlody]

Quick update since my original post. We have three iPhones, all three are experiencing the same issue. All three were setup identically in iOS10. The battery life is shorter by a good %25-30 because of this nonsense.

I also played with my iPad Mini 4. Since I do not use it for anything, I wiped it out clean, removed some garbage built-in apps and left it sit overnight. I never even logged into it with my iCloud account etc. Just overnight I lost %25 of batter and the location service icon is constantly on. I think Apple screwed up big time with this. We are actually considering going back to iOS10 because of this; however, my wife is also using Apple Watch and she looks like might be screwed up.

 

[Feenician]

Quick update since my original post. We have three iPhones, all three are experiencing the same issue. All three were setup identically in iOS10. The battery life is shorter by a good %25-30 because of this nonsense.

I also played with my iPad Mini 4. Since I do not use it for anything, I wiped it out clean, removed some garbage built-in apps and left it sit overnight. I never even logged into it with my iCloud account etc. Just overnight I lost %25 of batter and the location service icon is constantly on. I think Apple screwed up big time with this. We are actually considering going back to iOS10 because of this; however, my wife is also using Apple Watch and she looks like might be screwed up.

What does the battery section say used the power when it drained overnight? Screenshot?

 

[mlody]

I also noticed that turning on and off Significant Location is busted too! When you turn it off or on you have to force close the Settings to actually see the change, otherwise, it will show the last state (before the change). I cant wrap my head around those little things - 10 iOS11 betas are here we are dealing with such crap.

I made a short video showing the problem

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ag9bCpwgo2HWgstkgIw_pyxxcqxe4g

 

[Badagri]

I've just done a full iPad Pro factory restore and the location services still cannot find the location for weather etc....What on earth?

"Unable to locate"

 

[ck2875]

I also played with my iPad Mini 4. Since I do not use it for anything, I wiped it out clean, removed some garbage built-in apps and left it sit overnight. I never even logged into it with my iCloud account etc. Just overnight I lost %25 of batter and the location service icon is constantly on.

As a side note you could prob turn off the 'routing and traffic' under Product Improvement for the iPad if you aren't going anywhere with it. All that does is send anonymous data to Apple to determine how fast you're going down a road as an indication of whether there is heavy traffic / traffic jams.

 

[marvz]

I just unpaired my Apple Watch - Location Arrow disappeared almost instantly.
Now I just started the pairing process - it's not even 50 % finished and the Location Arrow is already back. WTF! xD

 

[ck2875]

I just unpaired my Apple Watch - Location Arrow disappeared almost instantly.
Now I just started the pairing process - it's not even 50 % finished and the Location Arrow is already back. WTF! xD

Still for weather?

 

[marvz]

Still for weather?

Yes, still Weather. Sometimes hollow, sometimes full arrow. So it's 100 % because of Weather App and 100 % also something with Apple Watch.

 

[SRLMJ23]

Do you have an apple watch by any chance ?
For me on ios11 and watchOS 4 , i get the hollow location sign all the time as long as the watch is connected.
If i turn off bluetooth (set watch on plane mode) the hollow location indicator is gone.

It comes from weather in my case (set to always)

It is the Apple Watch. I turned my iPhone to Airplane Mode as mentioned above and the arrow went away. Thanks, because I was wondering the same thing!

 

[ck2875]

Yes, still Weather. Sometimes hollow, sometimes full arrow. So it's 100 % because of Weather App and 100 % also something with Apple Watch.

1. What's your settings for "Apple Watch Faces" under Settings App > Privacy > Location Services?
   
2. Watch App > My Watch > Dock > Change that to "Favorites" instead of "Recent". It's possible the watch is auto-loading the weather into the dock.

(Just trying to think of random things to check)

 

[marvz]

1. What's your settings for "Apple Watch Faces" under Settings App > Privacy > Location Services?
   
2. Watch App > My Watch > Dock > Change that to "Favorites" instead of "Recent". It's possible the watch is auto-loading the weather into the dock.

(Just trying to think of random things to check)

1. It's on "While using" but it's only a grey arrow so it isn't used right now. Weather has the only purple arrow.
2. I was thinking about that yesterday so I removed Weather from my dock. Didn't changed anything.

Still thank you for trying to solve this problem.

 

[smartalic34]

Apple also changed what the arrows mean in iOS 11 vs. 10, according to this article:

https://mackuba.eu/2017/07/13/changes-to-location-tracking-in-ios-11/

 

[Feenician]

Apple also changed what the arrows mean in iOS 11 vs. 10, according to this article:

https://mackuba.eu/2017/07/13/changes-to-location-tracking-in-ios-11/

Great article and shows Apple keeps thinking about privacy.

 

[iteklog]

Hi - So after doing a clean install of iOS11 in my iphone 7 plus, the location service icon is always in the top right corner. I think this is causing my phone to drain my battery much faster, i checked the location services settings and my apps are set to Allow location access as "Never" or "while using app".

The only app that has "Always" is weather, which was always on before the upgrade and never had a battery draining problem or the damn icon on top.

Anybody knows if there are any hidden settings that i need to change?

 

[Feenician]

Hi - So after doing a clean install of iOS11 in my iphone 7 plus, the location service icon is always in the top right corner. I think this is causing my phone to drain my battery much faster, i checked the location services settings and my apps are set to Allow location access as "Never" or "while using app".

The only app that has "Always" is weather, which was always on before the upgrade and never had a battery draining problem or the damn icon on top.

Anybody knows if there are any hidden settings that i need to change?

A lot of people have queried and some claim to have found (strangely disparate) solutions. There’s a thread floating around on page 1 or 2of this forum. Have a dig through and see if you can find a solution for you.

Myself I suspect it’s just a change in how it’s displayed or simply just being displayed incorrectly. I don’t currently see any undue battery use for location.

 

[TRICKorDEVICE]

Mine seems to be the weather app too. I also have an Apple Watch BTW.

 

[zz_nosa_r]

Disable Wifi Networking in Privacy -> Location Services -> System

 

[marvz]

Apple also changed what the arrows mean in iOS 11 vs. 10, according to this article:

https://mackuba.eu/2017/07/13/changes-to-location-tracking-in-ios-11/

So at least hollow arrow in combination with Weather just means that it's waiting for information and not actually using GPS all the time like geofencing would do.
Still no explanation why it's a full arrow like 50% of the time from Weather. Hopefully it's just a bug with watchOS 4.

 

[gqtrebor]

Mine my apple watch, i unpair, it goes away. pair comes back.....

 

[EM2013]

I had this problem as well and found it was the weather app’s location that was set to ‘always’ (don’t know if I always had it on that way or if it set itself) but I changed it to ‘while using’ and it’s gone now.