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k.alexander

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I also noticed that turning on and off Significant Location is busted too! When you turn it off or on you have to force close the Settings to actually see the change, otherwise, it will show the last state (before the change). I cant wrap my head around those little things - 10 iOS11 betas are here we are dealing with such crap.

I made a short video showing the problem

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ag9bCpwgo2HWgstkgIw_pyxxcqxe4g

Just go back one more level, and then back again into System Services, and you will see that Your toggling of on/off for Significant Locations is ended being retained—no need to force quit the app.
 

donrsd

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Dec 16, 2011
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South Florida
Had iOS 11 for a while now, never had Watch OS 4.
Today I finally put my AW OS4 on my wrist. Ever since then the outline location icon is on my iPhone.
Turned off the weather app from “always” to while using” and location icon goes away on my iPhone 7 Plus.

Definitely the AW weather.
 
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CyriL75

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Sep 24, 2017
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Had iOS 11 for a while now, never had Watch OS 4.
Today I finally put my AW OS4 on my wrist. Ever since then the outline location icon is on my iPhone.
Turned off the weather app from “always” to while using” and location icon goes away on my iPhone 7 Plus.

Definitely the AW weather.

Hi,

Same issue here due to Weather app and Apple Watch Series 0.

I was wondering if this issue also occurs with Apple Watch + GPS (series 2/3) ?

Regards,
Cyril
 

marvz

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Aug 27, 2012
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Hi,

Same issue here due to Weather app and Apple Watch Series 0.

I was wondering if this issue also occurs with Apple Watch + GPS (series 2/3) ?

Regards,
Cyril
Yes, I have an Apple Watch Series 2 and the same problem with watchOS 4.
 

MoonageDaydream

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Sep 23, 2013
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For me it’s both the weather and the watch. If I turn weather setting to “only when using” the location icon goes away. It also goes away if i turn my Apple Watch completely off. Even if I unpair it the icon stays there. I can leave the weather set to “always” and if the Apple Watch is off the icon goes away.
 
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raab

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For me it’s both the weather and the watch. If I turn weather setting to “only when using” the location icon goes away. It also goes away if i turn my Apple Watch completely off. Even if I unpair it the icon stays there. I can leave the weather set to “always” and if the Apple Watch is off the icon goes away.

Same here, only just installed watchOS 4 last night and now have the hollow location icon on all the time
 

marvz

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Aug 27, 2012
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Had iOS 11 for a while now, never had Watch OS 4.
Today I finally put my AW OS4 on my wrist. Ever since then the outline location icon is on my iPhone.
Turned off the weather app from “always” to while using” and location icon goes away on my iPhone 7 Plus.

Definitely the AW weather.
This did it for me too - now I finally don't have the hollow/full location arrow in the status bar all the time.
I also checked an iPhone of a friend still running iOS 10. The setting for weather on iOS 10 had only two options "always" or "never". Now on iOS 11 we have three options.
 

grant15

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Sep 25, 2017
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Somewhat unrelated, but I noticed that the Weather widget does not refresh on my iPhone 8 with iOS 11. Location services are on for Weather. I tried shutting down the phone and uninstalling the app and reinstalling from the app store. In both situations, the weather in the widget updated, but then stays on that temperature going forward. Anyone else run into this?
 

bbmint

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Aug 24, 2017
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Somewhat unrelated, but I noticed that the Weather widget does not refresh on my iPhone 8 with iOS 11. Location services are on for Weather. I tried shutting down the phone and uninstalling the app and reinstalling from the app store. In both situations, the weather in the widget updated, but then stays on that temperature going forward. Anyone else run into this?
Yes I have the same issue, on my 6s. Even after I open the Weather app and it shows the current temperature, the widget still stuck on the initial temp.
 

willdude

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Jul 16, 2010
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Apple also changed what the arrows mean in iOS 11 vs. 10, according to this article:

https://mackuba.eu/2017/07/13/changes-to-location-tracking-in-ios-11/

That's interesting, but doesn't really explain why before when I had Weather for the phone/watch set to "Always", I didn't get a persistent location icon, but now I always have the hollow icon.

Fwiw, ever since switching it to "Never" then back to "Always", it no longer gives me the filled in icon, and it accurately updates my location on my watch. (When set to "While Using" it wouldn't update the location automatically.)
 

paulad73

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Sep 27, 2017
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Try the following:
Privacy -> Location Services -> System Services - > Significant Services.
Toggle SS off.
Come out of settings completely and then go back into settings.
Toggle SS back on.
The arrow should have gone...mine has.
 
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jbachandouris

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Actually, I had noticed that Apple's Weather App mysteriously changed to using location services 'always' instead of 'only when using app.' I switched it back and it's been fine since.

Basically, look through your location settings and anything that says 'always' will show the arrow. Personally, I'd like the option NOT to have the arrow. It's just annoying to me.
 

paulad73

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Sep 27, 2017
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Try the following:
Privacy -> Location Services -> System Services - > Significant Services.
Toggle SS off.
Come out of settings completely and then go back into settings.
Toggle SS back on.
The arrow should have gone...mine has.
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The arrow is back !!!!!!!!!!
 

Sharkoneau

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Jan 13, 2017
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Everyone may want to toggle off Cell Network Search as well. It has nothing to do with the function/performance of the phone, but is a data aggregation setting to help Apple & your carrier assess network usage and supposedly make improvements. Turned mine off, everything works as expected, and I don't often get the arrow anymore.
 

C DM

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Everyone may want to toggle off Cell Network Search as well. It has nothing to do with the function/performance of the phone, but is a data aggregation setting to help Apple & your carrier assess network usage and supposedly make improvements. Turned mine off, everything works as expected, and I don't often get the arrow anymore.
Most of those setting don't have much to do with functionality of the device.
 

realpras

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Oct 6, 2013
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See the attached image: that hollow location icon means the app/system may use your location but isn't actually using it. When your location is being used, it changes to solid white/black.

To see it yourself, go to your home screen when the arrow is hollow (like your screenshot), then open Weather, then the icon will turn into solid white/black, which means it's actually using your location.
 

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realpras

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See the attached image: that hollow location icon means the app/system may use your location but isn't actually using it. When your location is being used, it changes to solid white/black.

To see it yourself, go to your home screen when the arrow is hollow (like your screenshot), then open Weather, then the icon will turn into solid white/black, which means it's actually using your location.

That's my understanding.
 

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StonewallBrown

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See the attached image: that hollow location icon means the app/system may use your location but isn't actually using it. When your location is being used, it changes to solid white/black.

To see it yourself, go to your home screen when the arrow is hollow (like your screenshot), then open Weather, then the icon will turn into solid white/black, which means it's actually using your location.
Yes and no. The hollow arrow also can mean you are under a geofence. Which is the rub. If you are under a geofence, the location service is constantly monitoring your location, which would drain some battery power. It’s been my guess since the early iOS 11 betas, that this is what’s causing the battery drain some are experiencing.
 
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C DM

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