yep. im getting the 3g 32gig. i cant wait. i already came across times when i thought "this would be so much easier with the ipad"
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yep. im getting the 3g 32gig. i cant wait. i already came across times when i thought "this would be so much easier with the ipad"
also...
You've obviously never been to a shareholder's meeting then.
That's pretty much the standard response to idiotic questions to which everyone already knows the answer. I'd have been more impressed with a response of:
sjobs@apple.com said:
But this isn't a shareholder's meeting, it's a response to a customer email. But I do like your suggestion for a possible response.
If only that was the case everywhere.
Around here the availability of open WiFi connections is extremely thin. In fact I hardly ever connect my iPhone that way and I use it on the web a lot.
As to cities or government in general providing WiFi I'm not convinced that is wise either. There is a small zone of Town provided WiFi not far from where I live, it is so bad it is not worth the drive. At times 3G is faster.
What is really needed is good old fashion competition, instead of city or town legislated monopolies.
One possibility that does intrigue me though is the idea that we could replace the US Postal service with a government run fiber to the home system. This would replace one monopoly with another but would be a modern approach to the constitutional requirement for a Mail service. It would take awhile but does have some advantages, one being taking local control out of the loop. The other is the idea that tacking on a WiFi node would be very inexpensive and would lead to proliferation.
The problem is we have to many idiots in congress to grasp the proposal. To save jobs they would just expand the US Postal service which is of course a pretty stupid move. The other issue would be the luddites and other crazies thinking that your number (IP Address) is some sort of a government plan to do what ever.
Dave
Around here the availability of open WiFi connections is extremely thin. In fact I hardly ever connect my iPhone that way and I use it on the web a lot.
As to cities or government in general providing WiFi I'm not convinced that is wise either. There is a small zone of Town provided WiFi not far from where I live, it is so bad it is not worth the drive. At times 3G is faster.
What is really needed is good old fashion competition, instead of city or town legislated monopolies.
One possibility that does intrigue me though is the idea that we could replace the US Postal service with a government run fiber to the home system. This would replace one monopoly with another but would be a modern approach to the constitutional requirement for a Mail service. It would take awhile but does have some advantages, one being taking local control out of the loop. The other is the idea that tacking on a WiFi node would be very inexpensive and would lead to proliferation.
The problem is we have to many idiots in congress to grasp the proposal. To save jobs they would just expand the US Postal service which is of course a pretty stupid move. The other issue would be the luddites and other crazies thinking that your number (IP Address) is some sort of a government plan to do what ever.
Dave
Mine was in response to someone saying that no other CEO would respond with just a "No." No, it happens all the time, when there's nothing else to say on the matter besides, "you idiot."
Asking about iPhone tethering to an iPad is, frankly, a ridiculous question.
steve doesnt want to give people ideas thats false. people will look at his wording and will out of the blue twist his words. so he keeps it simple. "no" now tell me, how do you twist that?
Au contraire. As spelled out in detail earlier, there are around 50 million reasons for aapl to allow iPhone owners to tether their iPads. The 3G model extends the mobile iPad market to non iPhone owners.
There's not been much competition going on here in the private sector, Europe and parts of Asia are far outstripping the US when it comes to development of networks.
It's funny you should mention monopolies when talking about AT&T. AT&T at one point, was one of the most abusive monopolies ever to form. It was so bad that it was broken into the baby bells to encourage competition again.
Wouldn't tethering become a user interface nightmare though? You'd have to ensure the device isn't asleep to be able to connect to it, and it would run down the battery on both devices.
Surely a better solution is to just switch SIM card between devices, clone your sim card, or arrange some sort of duo-plan with your network provider, like a family plan, but for a family of devices.
iPhone sim won't fit.
Sure, answering just "no" happens, but in this thread we are talking about answering just "no" to an email. From a customer. Most CEOs will have their minions send a standardized, overly polite and long-winded response in order to just say no, instead of actually just writing "No."
What about different kinds of tethering. I would love it if the pad could share the phones camera (conferencing). How about letting the phone act as an iTunes server. You could watch movies or TV shows that were stored on your phone.
2 words- BULL ****!
If AT&T was worried about the bandwidth, they wouldn't GLADLY sell you a 3G dongle for your laptop... And charge you for it...
I am PERFECTLY willing to pay an upcharge to use the iPhone as a tether - I pay $40 a month right now for the 3G USB dongle I use to get my macbook online while traveling. The point is, I'd rather just give them that $40 and be allowed to tether so it'd be 1 less thing I'd have to lug around with me....
But they don't even give us that option!
I would absolutely say no to a smaller iphone.People are not going to carry both around as much as you seem to think.
Because it adds $30 or so a month?
Why pay the extra internet charge when you can tether with your ( non iPhone ) phone?
The reason it only costs $30/month for unlimited access is that Apple promised AT&T that it wouldn't let wi-fi ipads tether to iphones.
Exactly! They asked Jobs a closed ended question to which there are only two possible answers. A 'yes' or a 'no'. OK - there is also 'maybe' if you want to cause chaos and confusion on the Macrumours forums!
Ah ok. But Apple cannot stop tethering from other phones... how can you identify tethering vs regular WIFI AP?
You can't. But a deal is a deal. AT&T figures iPhone owners are much more likely to buy iPads, so most iPad owners, at least for awhile, will also have iPhones. It tethering is allowed, that's increased load on the network without additional $$ for AT&T (remember - AT&T still doesn't allow iPhone tethering). This way, AT&T gets at least some $$ to allow what every decent network already allows.
This just aint fair. Though I do understand. I am still not happy with the extra 4130 for the 3G ipad. I guess ATT said they wouldnt subsidize again so Apple is getting their pound of flesh from us.
its contract free or subsidized pricing. apple choice no contract which suits this device.
Aww, muffin. You're just sad because he never replied to you, eh?
I have to believe he is, given the fact that the first time I emailed him led to an interview with Apple and they had no idea what I did for a living. Sure, maybe there's people sifting through the emails and pushing select ones up to him.. maybe not. But I doubt Steve Jobs, or Apple would allow that kind of direct (and blunt) communication with customers if it wasn't really him. Every time this happens it ends up on Engadget, or Digg, etc. And look at the kind of negative attention it's generating.
By my own experience, types like Steve are addicted to their work. They can't let it go.. ever. They're working until the wee hours of the morning, up late, up early, and always writing emails, leaving voicemails. They're an employees worst nightmare because the job never ends. It really doesn't seem that unrealistic to me.
I have to believe he is, given the fact that the first time I emailed him led to an interview with Apple and they had no idea what I did for a living. Sure, maybe there's people sifting through the emails and pushing select ones up to him.. maybe not. But I doubt Steve Jobs, or Apple would allow that kind of direct (and blunt) communication with customers if it wasn't really him. Every time this happens it ends up on Engadget, or Digg, etc. And look at the kind of negative attention it's generating.
By my own experience, types like Steve are addicted to their work. They can't let it go.. ever. They're working until the wee hours of the morning, up late, up early, and always writing emails, leaving voicemails. They're an employees worst nightmare because the job never ends. It really doesn't seem that unrealistic to me.
And why is that? Ridiculous is to release not one but two different versions of the iPad, and none of them can connect to internet thru an iPhone even though the iPhone officially supports devices connecting to the internet thru it and the technology to do so is right there.