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Jony Ive Removed From Apple's Leadership Page
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Ive is moving back to the U.K. He doesn't want to be in the U.S. anymore.
A while back we heard that he will continue working for Apple through his own company.
I don't believe his influence in product design will stop at this point.
A while back we heard that he will continue working for Apple through his own company.
I don't believe his influence in product design will stop at this point.
Brain, heart, soul and guts of Apple gone.
Replaced by MBA charlatans and venal, money-obsessed scumbags.
I value macrumors’ members having special insight into how Ive worked. Nothing has been written about how he actually worked other than he assigned leaders to products, held design reviews, and oversaw sketch sessions. And we don’t know other executive influence on ID. Yet, I appreciate everyone here with special knowledge on Ive’s regimen.
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New Mac Pro was reason enough to sack him.
Apparently Maps was the last straw. Forstall was notoriously difficult to work with, much like Steve Jobs himself, but it seems like Jobs was able to keep him in check.
You’ve been baying for Ive’s blood over the last few years. Do you just love to complain in any circumstance or are you not happy with the change you’ve been begging for?
It's perhaps the ultimate irony that many of those complaining about Ive are probably doing so from a device he designed.
Personally I think it's sad that he has left Apple, and I do hope he continues to play an active role in shaping their product designs now and in the future. Those who are pleased with his departure and looking forward to new designs without his input should be careful what they wish for.
Personally I think it's sad that he has left Apple, and I do hope he continues to play an active role in shaping their product designs now and in the future. Those who are pleased with his departure and looking forward to new designs without his input should be careful what they wish for.
To be fair, we were supposed to be on the the 3rd generation of 10nm by now. This whole 14nm+++ debacle by Intel necessitated design changes.
Its fair to say Apple products may get significantly worse in some respects, but it might be worth the risk if they get better in respects that have been neglected for some time. Eg. Usability for professionals. With the new MBP keyboard for example there are positive signs that users matter again.
Before he died Jobs ensured Ive was "set up" to be untouchable, even by the board. Big mistake.
The Mac Pro debacle has been the result of Ive's untouchable status. Jobs always knew the pre 6,1 Mac Pro tower (cMP) design was a compromise, but it was a necessary one to compete in the pro space at a reasonable price point. Sure, physical design was a big part of Apple's success (the cMP still is one of the best 'tower' personal computers in history). But after Jobs left the building Ive operated unchecked by reality. The MP "trash can" was the result. It took Apple execs almost FOUR years to realize the mistake they made, then they gave Ive TWO more years to "redo" a tower design. The new Mac Pro is a capable machine, but the physical design is so way over the top that it is now priced to fail.
Bob Mansfield was the senior VP of of Mac Hardware Engineering, but didn't last a year after Jobs departure. He seemed to be the "Voice of reason" that enabled balance between physical design and practicality. When Ivy assumed absolute power, that balance crumbled and the downward spiral began.
With Ive removed from leadership maybe Apple can regain some balance and save the ship but I fear it is too late.
The Mac Pro debacle has been the result of Ive's untouchable status. Jobs always knew the pre 6,1 Mac Pro tower (cMP) design was a compromise, but it was a necessary one to compete in the pro space at a reasonable price point. Sure, physical design was a big part of Apple's success (the cMP still is one of the best 'tower' personal computers in history). But after Jobs left the building Ive operated unchecked by reality. The MP "trash can" was the result. It took Apple execs almost FOUR years to realize the mistake they made, then they gave Ive TWO more years to "redo" a tower design. The new Mac Pro is a capable machine, but the physical design is so way over the top that it is now priced to fail.
Bob Mansfield was the senior VP of of Mac Hardware Engineering, but didn't last a year after Jobs departure. He seemed to be the "Voice of reason" that enabled balance between physical design and practicality. When Ivy assumed absolute power, that balance crumbled and the downward spiral began.
With Ive removed from leadership maybe Apple can regain some balance and save the ship but I fear it is too late.
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Ive no doubt had talent, but I can’t help but scratch my head with the similarity of his designs and Dieter Rams designs. He’s no doubt a talented industrial designer but is he really as “special” as people thought...
i wonder now what happens. There is no star running the product show anymore. When this happened in late 1980s and 1990 Apple went into the toilet