MP 6,1 Latest Boot ROM and SMC version on Mac Pro Late 2013 (trashcan)

[tsialex]

Thanks for the info.

This is very surprising...and much appreciated.

Hopefully they continue support as five years from discontinued would be 2024-25.

MacPro6,1 will be supported while Monterey is supported, so, until September/October 2024.

 

[drbill]

Any firmware update with 12.5 b5?

 

[tsialex]

Monterey 12.5 DP5 still have EFI 430.140.2.0.0 for MacPro6,1.

 

[tsialex]

Still EFI 430.140.2.0.0 with yesterday's Release Candidate of macOS Monterey 12.5 (21G69).

 

[drbill]

Still EFI 430.140.2.0.0 with yesterday's Release Candidate of macOS Monterey 12.5 (21G69).

Thanks!

 

[mikas]

Thanks for updates about this.
I wonder if sleep still works ok, like with earlier officially released 430.120.6.0.0 ?

 

[drbill]

Thanks for updates about this.
I wonder if sleep still works ok, like with earlier officially released 430.120.6.0.0 ?

seep is working fine for me

 

[tsialex]

While sleep seems to be working fine, we've got some NVMe related crashes with a 512GB XPG Spectrix S40G that stopped after replacing it with a 970 EVO Plus. Btw, the XPG Spectrix S40G worked fine for months with a 2012 Mac Pro and BigSur.

Even if we never had the NVMe crash with XPG Spectrix S40G when the previous 429.60.3.0.0 and 12.4 was installed, it's difficult to affirm that the new firmware release is the culprit here, could be something with the kernel of the 12.5 betas that was incompatible with the previous installed blade, since it's working for around two weeks with the 970 EVO Plus without KPs.

 

[loby]

While sleep seems to be working fine, we've got some NVMe related crashes with a 512GB XPG Spectrix S40G that stopped after replacing it with a 970 EVO Plus. Btw, the XPG Spectrix S40G worked fine for months with a 2012 Mac Pro and BigSur.

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Even if we never had the NVMe crash with XPG Spectrix S40G when the previous 429.60.3.0.0 and 12.4 was installed, it's difficult to affirm that the new firmware release is the culprit here, could be something with the kernel of the 12.5 betas that was incompatible with the previous installed blade, since it's working for around two weeks with the 970 EVO Plus without KPs.

These SSDs blades use an adapter?

 

[tsialex]

These SSDs blades use an adapter?

Yes, both are standard M.2 M-key NVMe v1.3 blades.

 

[loby]

Yes, both are standard M.2 M-key NVMe v1.3 blades.

Would be interested to see if those with the issue use an adapter verses SSD's specifically made for macpro6,1..

 

[krakman]

Would be interested to see if those with the issue use an adapter verses SSD's specifically made for macpro6,1..

I just returned a WD770 2tb NVME + adapter because I was getting crashes. This was usually caused when transferring large amounts of data. when browsing the internet the SSD would be stable and go for hours without a crash.

 

[tsialex]

I just returned a WD770 2tb NVME + adapter because I was getting crashes. This was usually caused when transferring large amounts of data. when browsing the internet the SSD would be stable and go for hours without a crash.

The whole SN5xx and SN7xx lines have issues with Mac Pros, from models that stop to work with a reboot to models with KPs when in load, even with 2019 Mac Pro.

I would not buy one, even more so one that is DRAM less like SN770.

Btw, WD and SanDisk are the same thing today, same blades/firmware with different marketing and names.

 

[tsialex]

Monterey 12.5RC2 (21G72) MacPro6,1 EFI firmware is still 430.140.2.0.0. Seems that Apple will release this build for everyone in the next few days.

 

[arw]

Big Sur 11.6.8 also includes 430.140.2.0.0.
Surprisingly, the build date (2022-04-18) is older than the 430.120.6.0.0 (2022-05-16).
Build date is 2022-04-18.

 

[Spacedust]

The whole SN5xx and SN7xx lines have issues with Mac Pros, from models that stop to work with a reboot to models with KPs when in load, even with 2019 Mac Pro.

I would not buy one, even more so one that is DRAM less like SN770.

Btw, WD and SanDisk are the same thing today, same blades/firmware with different marketing and names.

Intel 670p works great

 

[Spacedust]

Big Sur 11.6.8 also includes 430.140.2.0.0.
Surprisingly, the build date (2022-04-18) is older than the 430.120.6.0.0 (2022-05-16).

Mine was showing under Windows Apple Inc. 430.120.6.0.0, 2022-03-16 so it's newer

If they can only add sleep/resume under Windows when Thunderbolt device is connected...

 

[tsialex]

Still EFI 430.140.2.0.0 with Monterey 12.6 (21G115) DP1.

 

[Spacedust]

How about final ?

 

[chrfr]

How about final ?

21G115 is the final build.

 

[Spacedust]

Ok, thanks

 

[tsialex]

With today's developer release of 12.6.1 RC2 (build 21G211), we have a new EFI firmware for late-2013 Mac Pro, 470.0.0.0.0:

Hardware Overview:

  Model Name:    Mac Pro
  Model Identifier:    MacPro6,1
  Processor Name:    6-Core Intel Xeon E5
  Processor Speed:    3,5 GHz
  Number of Processors:    1
  Total Number of Cores:    6
  L2 Cache (per Core):    256 KB
  L3 Cache:    12 MB
  Hyper-Threading Technology:    Enabled
  Memory:    16 GB
  System Firmware Version:    470.0.0.0.0
  OS Loader Version:    540.120.3~22
  SMC Version (system):    2.20f18
  Panel Illumination Version:    1.4a6

Btw, the screen went off while updating for around 20 minutes, don't shutdown your Mac Pro!!!

 

[tsialex]

Only change I've found so far, after carefully comparing SysPref and dmidecode between 430.140.2.0.0 and 470.0.0.0.0, was that the new EFI was compiled with a new version of clang, still looking for any other changes.

Btw, 470.0.0.0.0 was compiled back in Tue Aug 23 06:53:11 PDT 2022.

430.140.2.0.0:

OEM Strings
    String 1: Apple ROM Version.  Model:        MP61.  EFI Version:  430.140.
    String 2: 2.0.0.  Built by:     root@d4hgx.  Date:         Mon Apr 18 15:
    String 3: 23:19 PDT 2022.  Revision:     430.140.2 (B&I).  ROM Version:
    String 4: F000_B00.  Build Type:   Official Build, Release.  Compiler: 
    String 5:   clang-1316.0.21.3.

470.0.0.0.0:

OEM Strings
    String 1: Apple ROM Version.  Model:        MP61.  EFI Version:  470.0.0.
    String 2: 0.0.  Built by:     root@9bn8b.  Date:         Tue Aug 23 06:53
    String 3: :11 PDT 2022.  Revision:     470 (B&I).  ROM Version:  F000_B00
    String 4: .  Build Type:   Official Build, Release.  Compiler:     clang-
    String 5: 1400.0.29.1.

 

[tsialex]

Only change I've found so far, after carefully comparing SysPref and dmidecode between 430.140.2.0.0 and 470.0.0.0.0, was that the new EFI was compiled with a new version of clang, still looking for any other changes.

Btw, 470.0.0.0.0 was compiled back in Tue Aug 23 06:53:11 PDT 2022.

430.140.2.0.0:

OEM Strings
    String 1: Apple ROM Version.  Model:        MP61.  EFI Version:  430.140.
    String 2: 2.0.0.  Built by:     root@d4hgx.  Date:         Mon Apr 18 15:
    String 3: 23:19 PDT 2022.  Revision:     430.140.2 (B&I).  ROM Version:
    String 4: F000_B00.  Build Type:   Official Build, Release.  Compiler: 
    String 5:   clang-1316.0.21.3.

470.0.0.0.0:

OEM Strings
    String 1: Apple ROM Version.  Model:        MP61.  EFI Version:  470.0.0.
    String 2: 0.0.  Built by:     root@9bn8b.  Date:         Tue Aug 23 06:53
    String 3: :11 PDT 2022.  Revision:     470 (B&I).  ROM Version:  F000_B00
    String 4: .  Build Type:   Official Build, Release.  Compiler:     clang-
    String 5: 1400.0.29.1.

After some days testing it, 470.0.0.0.0 seems to be very stable with no crashes whatsoever, but 12.6.1 DP2 is clearly not ready yet - almost every day restarts are needed for RemoteDesktop to work with the Mac Pro remotely.

 

[loby]

After some days testing it, 470.0.0.0.0 seems to be very stable with no crashes whatsoever, but 12.6.1 DP2 is clearly not ready yet - almost every day restarts are needed for RemoteDesktop to work with the Mac Pro remotely.

Any idea what improved with the firmware beta?