Yeap, I can't come to terms with buying a 13" or 15" MBP when having 17" 2.2GHZ with a bunch ports to use.
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Well, I subscribe to this thread in wait for any solution. In a first place, I will stay on High Sierra in my MacBook Pro Late 2011 (with Radeon 6750M) at the expect of the future evolution of Mojave betas. So, in a nutshell, the alternatives could be 2:
1- Wait for Apple launch of the beta in oldest Mac Pros and waiting for the behavior of the interface (OpenGL perhaps)
2- Buying a Thunderbolt adapter and using it with a third party card with Metal support (the easy way)...
1- Wait for Apple launch of the beta in oldest Mac Pros and waiting for the behavior of the interface (OpenGL perhaps)
2- Buying a Thunderbolt adapter and using it with a third party card with Metal support (the easy way)...
****! Also, not even one day after the WWDC is given up, look for a solution.
Then my 24" iMacs are now retired, although I prefer working on it, as on my 2017 5K iMac
Then my 24" iMacs are now retired, although I prefer working on it, as on my 2017 5K iMac
1- Oldest Mac Pro's requires a GPU upgrade with proper Metal support to work with Mojave. Apple won't will backport anything to OpenGL.
2- Thunderbolt GPU-s not working very vell with dedicated GPU-s. (I'am using it on my 2011's iMac with nearly the same Radeon (same family, mobile chipset)).
With a 2011's 13", a thunderbolt GPU works like a charm. With patched OS X drivers, the picture come from the integrated LCD, and acceleration runs on the eGPU. Before eGPU disconnect, the OS must be shutting down (or the system panics when the thunderbolt cable pulled off). When i checked it on my 27" iMac or a 17" MBP with Radeon, the external card acceleration only works with external monitor attached to the eGPU the internal screen remains accelerated only by the original dedicated Radeon GPU.
My 15" MBP runs a Radeon too, so I would get the second result (the need of an external screen for getting worked my eGPU). But I think that it would open me a world of possibilities (like running better certain programs). Thanks for the info 
The 13" model from 2011 only sold with Intel HD3000!
13": Intel HD3000 only
15" and 17": HD 3000 and AMD Radeon 6750/6770M on different versions
I guess that is the dedicated GPU kext what bothers to getting internal screen eGPU acceleration.
Oh, sad day! This seems the end of line for my beloved Early 2009 Mac mini...
You have two years more of Safari, iTunes and security updates, plus more years from third party apps.
Wake up call for me, time for a new Mac, as this will be probably the last update for me.
Come on, Apple, give us something amazing, I do not want a Mac which gets severely disabled by a few grains of sand!
Come on, Apple, give us something amazing, I do not want a Mac which gets severely disabled by a few grains of sand!
you can't tinker with 2018 MBP(dongle Nightmare computer) vs 2011 MacBook pro (nice set of ports)
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hi DosDude1 I have a MacBook Late 2008 5,1 MacBook I want to kno
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In this thread, advancements in running macOS 10.14 (Mojave) on unsupported systems will be discussed.
June 4, 2018 conclusions:
We (dosdude1 & parrotgeek1) have thoroughly investigated 10.14 GPU drivers, and sadly, we have concluded that it is not possible for any non-Metal GPU to work, because almost the entire OS uses Metal.
Evidence for this: If you remove the Metal driver, it won't boot. But if you remove the OpenGL driver, it boots with acceleration but random actions throughout the OS cause crashes. Also, removing the OpenGL software renderer doesn't break safe mode, so it must use a non-OpenGL software renderer.
This leaves the compatibility list as theoretically (with a Metal capable GPU):
Another possibility for some computers is a Thunderbolt external GPU.
This needs to be investigated more, and requires kext patches.
The following unsupported models are Thunderbolt capable:
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In this thread, advancements in running macOS 10.14 (Mojave) on unsupported systems will be discussed.
June 4, 2018 conclusions:
We (dosdude1 & parrotgeek1) have thoroughly investigated 10.14 GPU drivers, and sadly, we have concluded that it is not possible for any non-Metal GPU to work, because almost the entire OS uses Metal.
Evidence for this: If you remove the Metal driver, it won't boot. But if you remove the OpenGL driver, it boots with acceleration but random actions throughout the OS cause crashes. Also, removing the OpenGL software renderer doesn't break safe mode, so it must use a non-OpenGL software renderer.
This leaves the compatibility list as theoretically (with a Metal capable GPU):
- Xserve 2008?
- Xserve 2009
- Mac Pro 2008?
- Mac Pro 2009
- Mac Pro 2010/2012
Another possibility for some computers is a Thunderbolt external GPU.
This needs to be investigated more, and requires kext patches.
The following unsupported models are Thunderbolt capable:
- MacBook Pro (Early/Late 2011)
- MacBook Air (Mid 2011)
- Mac mini (Mid 2011)
- iMac (Mid 2011)
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I didn't see what size he has, so I guess he was browsing the web on the Intel chipset
Hi dosdude 1 I have a 2009 mid 5,2 and I have a late 2008 5,1 MacBooks could I get the beta Mojave
How does the metal requirement affect headless systems?
I run my MacPro 3,1 without a GPU installed, currently with HS. I never boot the system into MacOS with the GPU installed. I only need the GPU (ATI 5870) installed for updates where I boot from an external USB with the patcher tool installed on it so that I can install the patches which should still work. After patch is applied, I shutdown and remove the GPU.
I run my MacPro 3,1 without a GPU installed, currently with HS. I never boot the system into MacOS with the GPU installed. I only need the GPU (ATI 5870) installed for updates where I boot from an external USB with the patcher tool installed on it so that I can install the patches which should still work. After patch is applied, I shutdown and remove the GPU.
Currently? No.
In the future with acceleration? No.
In the Future without acceleration? Maybe.
Currently, SSE4.2 (first generation Core i series) is required to boot up, and maybe this will be patched out in the future, but without any hardware acceleration, the user expirience is very crap.
I found a solution for 2011 MacBook Pro owners!!!
1. replace the logic board wth a 2012 MacBook Pro logic board
2. install Mac OS 10.14
Benefits include:
1. cheap to upgrade around $200 - $300
2. metal support
3. USB 3 upgrade from usb 2
4. your Mac will be supported for at least 2-3 more years
5. support for faster cpu and ram
6. no need to hack SIP and night mode every time you update
1. replace the logic board wth a 2012 MacBook Pro logic board
2. install Mac OS 10.14
Benefits include:
1. cheap to upgrade around $200 - $300
2. metal support
3. USB 3 upgrade from usb 2
4. your Mac will be supported for at least 2-3 more years
5. support for faster cpu and ram
6. no need to hack SIP and night mode every time you update
Where did you find a logic board for under 300¢? On eBay they cost more than 400¢?
Regards
Sam
Can’t tell if you’re being serious or not but can buy a complete used 2012 for under $400 sometimes, and under $500 for a pristine one. Get that and sell your 2011 for $250-$300.
that don't work on 17" MBP 2011, nice try there
I have a Mac Pro 2008 (3,1) in wich I have replaced the graphic card.
Now I have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2048 MB.
Despite the SSE2 kernel error, how much probabilities I have to run macOS 10.14 Mojave?
I know that is to early, but I'll ask anyway.
Thank you
Now I have an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2048 MB.
Despite the SSE2 kernel error, how much probabilities I have to run macOS 10.14 Mojave?
I know that is to early, but I'll ask anyway
.Thank you