I got the 12TB Seagate noted above <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0759Q9FXZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>. It's now down to 488 on amazon. Can confirm it works without problem on the 5,1 Mac Pro.
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I got the 12TB Seagate noted above <https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Ente...8&qid=1505580193&sr=8-5&keywords=Seagate+12TB>. It's now down to 488 on amazon. Can confirm it works without problem on the 5,1 Mac Pro.
Thanks for the report, we definitely need a database about which high capacity HDD can work with cMP flawlessly.
My WD 8TB Red now is a bit strange. I bet it's software issue.
It always shows up in Windows 10.
It always shows up in MacOS on a cold boot.
But it also always disappear in a warm restart to MacOS (if restart to Windows, the HDD will re-appear and work flawlessly).
There was no issue when I install this HDD back into Mar 2017 (whatever the current OS by that moment). And this issue seems suddenly appear since 10.12.6. And even now on 10.13.
SMART check is fine. Performance is good. Really have no idea what'w wrong or if there is any work around. At this moment, all I can do is never do a warm restart to MacOS, but full shutdown + cold boot.
WD Red 4TB and 6TB both still works flawlessly. However, the 8TB is definitely much faster.
Thanks for the report, we definitely need a database about which high capacity HDD can work with cMP flawlessly.
My WD 8TB Red now is a bit strange. I bet it's software issue.
It always shows up in Windows 10.
It always shows up in MacOS on a cold boot.
But it also always disappear in a warm restart to MacOS (if restart to Windows, the HDD will re-appear and work flawlessly).
There was no issue when I install this HDD back into Mar 2017 (whatever the current OS by that moment). And this issue seems suddenly appear since 10.12.6. And even now on 10.13.
SMART check is fine. Performance is good. Really have no idea what'w wrong or if there is any work around. At this moment, all I can do is never do a warm restart to MacOS, but full shutdown + cold boot.
WD Red 4TB and 6TB both still works flawlessly. However, the 8TB is definitely much faster.
Just found that disable TRIM in High Sierra can fix my "HDD not show up" issue.
I tried disable TRIM to see if that make any difference in Finder (my Finder occasionally has micro freeze in 10.13.1), and after the system restart. I realise my 8TB HDD also show up correctly. So, obviously TRIM + APFS in High Sierra not only affect the boot time, but something more.
So High Sierra and disabling TRIM fixed this issue of the drive vanishing? I recently added two 10TB WD Red drives to my older Pro and this morning woke up to both missing. The machine is only accessible remotely so I just did a reboot and that didn't fix it. It's currently powered down and will do a cold boot when I get home from work. I'm running Sierra, and since the machine just acts as a Plex server I wasn't in a rush to upgrade since things were working before the drive upgrade.
Yes, in fact, it's completely fixed now. Even though re-enable TRIM again.
I had this issue for more than a year. Never fixed. But since the slow boot issue in High Sierra, I disable TRIM. And the HDD work flawlessly straight away.
I did multiple TRIM enable / disable these 2 week. And I am very sure on the first TRIM re-enable test, the HDD disappear after reboot. But when I did it few more times. I suddenly realise the HDD won't disappear anymore. Any now work completely flawless.
Not sure if it's OS update fixed it, or because the multiple TRIM enable / disable accidentally permanently fix it.
Which program are you using to enable/disable TRIM? it's strange that thisis even impacting the drives since these aren't SSDs. I wouldn't be too bothered by this issue, but I run the machine headless, so just a pain in the ass to have to go turn it back on manually to fix each time.
Hi Magaman, thanks for your contribution to this tired old problem. I've been in contact with WD support about this "vanishing drives after reboot" issue for like a year now, because I also got two of their 6TB Gold drives with the faulty firmware. They are not able to acknowledge that they are part of the problem and shift the whole blame to APple for some strange reason. Funnily enough, I've been using lots of WD drives in the past and none of them had these problems. I tried to tell them this for a long long time already and it grows tiresome.
But great to hear you found a solution in Mac OS 10.13! Right now, I only have Mac OS 10.11 with me and I tried your solution with the trimforce command, but didn't get anywhere with it so far. Could you maybe explain in a bit more detail what you did to fix the issue? Did you disable TRIM while the WD drive in question was showing up on the desktop, or did you disable TRIM when it was already gone after a reboot? I can also try installing 10.13 on a secondary hard drive and see if that makes it work. Thanks for your input, I hope we can make a solution available for all affected users!
Just did a warm restart after today's High Sierra beta release. The tape-over-pin 3 trick didn't work with my two HGST Deskstar NAS 6TB drives (model no. HDN726060ALE615 and part no. 0F26700) - they didn't show up after the install. After shutdown and a cold restart, they showed up on the desktop
As a test?Try disable TRIM
As a test?
Disabling TRIM otherwise would be the worst possible suggestion for some with an SSD/controller that supports TRIM.
The. Worst. Possible.
Thanks for the explanation....Not just test, but that actually fixed my "HDD not show up" issue in High Sierra. I don't like to disable TRIM as well. But this could be the work around at this moment. And if that doesn't help, he can turn TRIM back on straight away. Or design if he prefer no TRIM, or no HDD after restart.
TRIM in High Sierra is quite buggy (may be because with APFS). But disable TRIM fix 4 issues on my Mac.
1) very slow boot (about 3min) on a SSD.
2) Finder micro freeze.
3) HDD not show up after restart.
4) Multiple auto restart during boot
I prefer keep it disable until Apple fix it.
Yep, the tape-over-pin3 only addresses the SATA3.3 issue, which currently affects large HGST drives. Basically some 8TB models and larger. Your 6TB drive probably isn't affected by this issue.Just did a warm restart after today's High Sierra beta release. The tape-over-pin 3 trick didn't work with my two HGST Deskstar NAS 6TB drives (model no. HDN726060ALE615 and part no. 0F26700) - they didn't show up after the install. After shutdown and a cold restart, they showed up on the desktop