Mitt Romney to Announce Vice Presidential Pick via iPhone App; Obama Campaign Releases New App

[mcrain]

You said spending cuts, not sure how that could be called anything less than massive spending. Even the CBO said it's going to cost nearly $2 Trillion just the first decade alone, and if I had to guess I'd say they are probably about $2 Trillion off.

If the cost to the government in that same time frame under prior policy was going to cost 10 trillion or whatever, then Obamacare still costs less, right? You're cherry picking your data. Go read the actual independent analysis, and you will find Obamacare will save money. It's a fact regardless of how your partisan widdle mind wishes it weren't.

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[dscuber9000]

You said spending cuts, not sure how that could be called anything less than massive spending. Even the CBO said it's going to cost nearly $2 Trillion just the first decade alone, and if I had to guess I'd say they are probably about $2 Trillion off.

The $1.7 trillion estimate doesn't include money saved from spending cuts, revenue from new taxes on the wealthy, penalties paid by individuals and workers who decide not to buy insurance, and other cost-saving measures included in the law.

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So, in other words, not really anywhere near $2 trillion.

 

[hulugu]

As shocking as this may be, I agree with you... with 2 caveats.

1) Saying that you're planning to spend a smaller increase in spending than you were originally planning is not a spending cut (a favorite political tactic)

This is a good point. And, politicians often confuse the national debt with federal spending.

...2) Can we stop demonizing people who are successful? Yes, I don't think it's a terrible thing if multi-millionaires pay a little more in taxes, but let's stop considering a family with a $250,000 income as the mega-rich.

That a family making $250,000 is considered in roughly the same tax bracket as a CEO who rakes in $23 million is absurd. The tax bracket at the top needs to be carved up into smaller pieces, say $250,000 to $1 million, $1 million - $20 million, etc. with increases that could reach as high as 90 percent at the very top.

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So, in other words, not really anywhere near $2 trillion.

Also, of note, that story is an opinion piece by a Weekly Standard writer and is not reporting from NPR directly.

 

[brentmore]

I applaud him for it, even though he may have resisted some. (It's not often I agree with something Obama does)

As shocking as this may be, I agree with you... with 2 caveats.

I appreciate the concessions that you both make, albeit with qualifications, when agreeing with the "other side". It's like pulling teeth - It's not that bad, I promise.

 

[Queso]

Or we can say the government is On a spending rampage, That Will Bankrupt Your Country, and start focusing on spending cuts.

Good idea. Start with the completely out of control military budget.

 

[ericrwalker]

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but if it doesn't involved cutting too many jobs, and mostly cut out wasteful spending and still keep defense strong and ready.

Good idea. Start with the completely out of control military budget.

 

[mcrain]

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but if it doesn't involved cutting too many jobs, and mostly cut out wasteful spending and still keep defense strong and ready.

Wait what? Are you suggesting that government spending creates jobs?

 

[ericrwalker]

Wait what? Are you suggesting that government spending creates jobs?

Every government job out there is a job created by the government. Some are more wasteful than others, you'd have to be a total moron to not see that.

The military is a power of the federal government, as is the post office (more government jobs).

 

[mcrain]

Every government job out there is a job created by the government. Some are more wasteful than others, you'd have to be a total moron to not see that.

The military is a power of the federal government, as is the post office (more government jobs).

Feel free to review my post history; you will find me arguing against people on the right who somehow forget that government spending creates jobs. In 99% of those situations, it is a person defending the Republicans and their crazy loony ideas that I'm arguing against.

You like to rail against government programs, and yet, you like the most wasteful programs there are?

 

[balamw]

So did anyone get their push notification before it hit the wires?

It's Paul Ryan apparently.

Surprising move IMO given congress' dismal approval ratings.

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[MadeTheSwitch]

So did anyone get their push notification before it hit the wires?

Surprising move IMO given congress' dismal approval ratings.

It's called a Hail Mary pass when things aren't going so good. We'll see if it turns out any better then the last time a Republican candidate for President threw one.