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NSA Was Able to Capture Live Data From Compromised iPhones in 2008, Including Live Camera, GPS, and More
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MOD NOTE: I closed the other thread and linked it to this one. We try to avoid merges these days for technical reasons.
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Fair enough. Thanks. It just would be twice as hard to double track the threads, so that's why I brought it up.
Back on topic.
The bigger issue is this. If the NSA were able to do this back in the original iPhone and iPhone 3G days, not only would they have had to intercept the phone at some point (even at creation time), but that would also mean that every iPhone created was impacted at that time. This isn't just a US-only thing now. This could potentially be every iPhone worldwide, and depending on if one still has it available, forensics could be done on that phone to see exactly how and do the reverse of Apple, with regards to jailbreaks:
Have the jailbreak community patch whatever hole the NSA used and release that either as a separate package, or along with a jailbreak.
But either way, that still may exist. I have a jailbroken and unlocked 3G sitting around, so I wonder if I was affected. Anyone have an idea as to what to look for?
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1) secure from whom? if you're worried that the US government is going to see your data, then I guess you'd have something to worry about, but I'm not sure why one would be worried about that in the professional world unless they were into wrongdoing. In the professional world I consider the chief goal of keeping data secure is to keep it secure from competitors who may want to get a leg up, and from hackers who would want to just want to see the world burn because its fun. There are a few others reasons of course including when dealing with PII data but those are the top threats IMO. The only time I'd be worried about a government spying on me is when the government is communist or like because they could be spying in order to pass competitive secrets to state-sanctioned corporations in order to give competitive advantages which goes back to the competitive reasons.
2) Do you really think a UK based company or any other country really is going to do anything less? US got caught this time... doesn't mean others don't do it.
but isnt the US/NSA "officially" saying they dont spy on the american citizens anyway but everyone else in the world ... even presidents they call friends and partners ...
oh my.
physical access to factories is trivial for the NSA, with or without Apple assistance. the only scary part is that there are others who turn a blind eye to the totalitarian police state in these first decades of its emergence.
Oh please, they can "officially" say all they want. Everyone knows they spy on everyone, probably even themselves.
Conspiracy theory: TRUST NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOURSELF!!!! YOU COULD BE SPYING ON YOURSELF!!!
really? It's called the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. and everyone should be worried that the American police state run amok violates it with impunity.
Just think how much pron the US government is paying to store on those massive, hidden, underground server farms.
thats what those " " were for
that whole 4th amendment obsession is so weird to me like isnt it dated by now. stuff that made a bit of sense back then shouldnt be the holy grail that can never be wrong now in 2013/14
Funny how media tells things without much knowledge and not getting in to the details while relying on obscure quotes, little information and not digging deeper (which is actually what a real journalism is about)
Some stuff:
NSA can't crack iMessage
US government pays bounties for zero-day exploits
Some stuff:
NSA can't crack iMessage
US government pays bounties for zero-day exploits
I was talking practically, not morally. The poster to whom I was replying said he had pulled his business from U.S. companies over these revelations because he felt his data was no longer secure, and it was on that line I was making my points. I was trying to not enter the moral and constitutional issue debate at this time.
A full restore wouldn't help you if they modified the hardware or firmware somehow.
Good thing I have a tendancy to wipe my devices pretty regularly. Not like the NSA cares about me but still
You mentioned NSA in an online post. They care about you now!
The current POTUS took office on January 20, 2009.
This NSA program was likely instigated by the previous administration.
The fun part is that they're great at collecting the data, storing it, and then doing absolutely nothing with it.
Silly you, you think that's a good thing.
No, it means that when they get hacked (and they can, have been, and will be) that all of the data they collected goes to someone who is almost certainly evil and will do bad things with it. They did all the heavy lifting for the criminals who couldn't. Meanwhile, you're no more secure in any way than you would have been had the NSA not stolen your data. In fact, you're almost certainly less secure.
Silly you, you think that's a good thing.
No, it means that when they get hacked (and they can, have been, and will be) that all of the data they collected goes to someone who is almost certainly evil and will do bad things with it. They did all the heavy lifting for the criminals who couldn't. Meanwhile, you're no more secure in any way than you would have been had the NSA not stolen your data. In fact, you're almost certainly less secure.
The argument that only people engaged in wrongdoing should worry about the government seeing your data is unfortunately becoming less and less the case. In just the last year, we have seen many examples of abuse:
1) The US government targeting people that lean some particular way politically... through the IRS and otherwise
2) Journalist that are critical of the government having many mysterious goings on with their online account (just read an article today about a government employee whistle blower having four or five years of his email account, which contained evidence of government abuse, accessed and destroyed).
3) The government obtaining dirt on people that are critical of it, or engaged in activitism they don't like (dirt as in not being illegal, but embarrassing).
It seems lately the government here has no qualms about crossing any lines.
Not an option. They'll find a way
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/woma...d-with-eviction-from-her-paid-for-home_122013