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These are exactly the kind of out of touch and stereotypical "Apple user" responses that are such a turn off to so many
We can do better than this everyone
Technically Sun still does, it’s just part of Oracle
We have 2 spring apps I have to deal with on our backend that are a constant thorn in my side, I want them gone and buried so badly.
If you saw our platform the Spring stuff would bring tears of joy to your eyes. I'm only still working part time at this outfit because they are paying me danger money not to leave or they are SOL. Just adding to the retirement fund while I concentrate on the academic side of life 🤣
Edit: verbatim port of VB6 desktop app to VB.Net, the guts of which were wrapped in a web app and dragged along for the last 2 decades. They got rid of the VB.Net about 5 years ago but it's basically C# that looks like VB6 still. Occasionally I have to sacrifice a couple of chickens next to it.
Edit 2: before anyone says "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", we don't know if it's broke or not because no one dares test it in case they work out it is broken and we'll have to start again.
Apart from C. That just comes and it makes other things go.
Uh, a good majority of the Internet still runs on java. Much of IBM is centered around java e-business. So yeah, it's still around and its not going anywhere.
Let's hope you don't have a technical position with anything to do with the Internet. If you do, god help your employer.
Java developers will use an OpenJDK on macOS. Actively maintained.
Java will not go away anytime soon. But more important, a lot of newer language are built on top of the JVM. BTW, a lot of code in the Apple ecosystem is still based on Objective-C, which is not 90's but 80's.
Apple killed Flash and I initially had hopes of them killing Java, but alas - it's still around and kicking. In my development toolchains I have tools still using Java and it's a Royal P**A to have them running smooth. Required to have four of these pesky Java runtimes on my system.
$ /usr/libexec/java_home -V
Matching Java Virtual Machines (4):
21.0.2 (arm64) "Eclipse Adoptium" - "OpenJDK 21.0.2" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/temurin-21.jdk/Contents/Home
18.0.2.1 (x86_64) "Azul Systems, Inc." - "Zulu 18.32.13" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-18.jdk/Contents/Home
17.0.9 (arm64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 17.0.9" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-17.jdk/Contents/Home
1.8.0_392 (x86_64) "Azul Systems, Inc." - "Zulu 8.74.0.17" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-8.jdk/Contents/Home
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/temurin-21.jdk/Contents/Home
Sigh!
$ /usr/libexec/java_home -V
Matching Java Virtual Machines (4):
21.0.2 (arm64) "Eclipse Adoptium" - "OpenJDK 21.0.2" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/temurin-21.jdk/Contents/Home
18.0.2.1 (x86_64) "Azul Systems, Inc." - "Zulu 18.32.13" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-18.jdk/Contents/Home
17.0.9 (arm64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 17.0.9" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-17.jdk/Contents/Home
1.8.0_392 (x86_64) "Azul Systems, Inc." - "Zulu 8.74.0.17" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-8.jdk/Contents/Home
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/temurin-21.jdk/Contents/Home
Sigh!
To be fair the poster will probably do a better job than our technical management which seems to go to conferences and generate a lot of expenses and come back talking about Kubernetes, the cloud and how we should outsource everything to India, then spend loads of money on that and deliver nothing and then magically disappear and be replaced with people who do exactly the same thing again.
So you’re saying younger Java devs stand to rake in a fortune after the old guard retires?
Personally though I actually do work a lot more in python, though I occasionally have to touch java code for some of our backend apps
No because once the Java old guard retires, AI will be used to just convert that old Java code into Python! 🤣
Speaking of Adobe-Apple relationship: this somehow happens still today. Every MacOS release breaks something with Adobe. Adobe blames Apple, Apple blames Adobe.
For example: InDesign suffered a flickering bug on Sonoma for months. Only recently it has been fixed through an Apple update.
A good chunk of the internet and some desktop applications.
Software developers get hit by it as a fair number of the tools we use are built in Java. Not as many every day desktops apps are made in Java like it used to
Siri: converts to Javascript instead
Good chunk of the internet runs on it still. Software developers run fair numbers of tools that are built in it.
IKR?!? I mean GEEZ! Nobody is able to Java develop now because of this!Well, outside your little Apple-desktop-and-apps-world there is the great wide internet with big business servers, which are mainly driven by Java - surprise!
All developers for that well needed backends are now extremely handycapped - simple as that! Apple should asap provide a patch, or the fellow developers insisting of using a mac will be target for laughter from colleagues... 🤣
Think of the internet, people! Wake up!
All backend Java deving has now completely stopped as a result. The internet is doomed!
Get your bug out bags and run for the hills. The End is nigh.
So funny, this only proves you know absolutely nothing about software development, and since you don’t, why are you even here? Because you’re a fan… of a brand? Lol
Sadly I just heard that the EU is going to force Oracle to convert anything that uses Java to Progressive Web Apps or they will fine Oracle 20 Billion dollars! 🤣
Bingo! Part of the "Apple can do no wrong" crowd. Endless supply of those here!
That might be indeed that case. Apple obviously is utilizing Swift now. You still read about Python usage with Macs these days with its more extensive standard library then Java. Google still has its Go language as another choice.
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