Yes indeed, all Java developers using macs are handycapped by this bug!
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This thread pique my interest into the most popular computing languages based on tutorial searches.
python is at 29% whereas Java is at 16%. So, Java is still not dead.
it seems that python is the easiest language to learn but still not as powerful and versatile as c++ and Java.
i started with pascal and it was easy to learn c after that.
c++ can be coded like c, but the programming logic is quite different in object oriented programming.
anyone remember awk and perl?
Yeah it's only powering like half of the business environments out there...
Apple is notorious for breaking things and just not caring. That is why business IT has moved away from Apple. In the end Apple products are designed for teenagers or teenager wannabes.
It just that there are a ton of reasons you still go with objective C over swift in iOS. Biggest one is some core frameworks and things objective C can do that swift can not.
All the big crash monitoring sdks are objective c based and do nothing in swift. iOS itself core is objective c. Any application on iOS that is more than 7-8 years old still has a lot of objective c.
Any applications using SQLite or coredata is using heavy objective c based items in it. Even if app is not using objective c. All logging is objective c base frameworks.
Joys of old stuff. I find as an iOS developer being comfortable going into Objective c a huge asset and has gotten me interviews and even multiple job offers because I am not scared of it and comfortable when I need to. I don’t like going into it but am perfectly happy doing it and have zero fear of it. Now I am amount a dying group of iOS developers but it is a huge asset. I will freely admit I am rusty at it but can read it and do it.
Speaking only as someone who supported consumer Macs and not Devs for 20 odd years, I spent a lot of time removing the malware that gets installed when consumers install Java. There’s some stupid adware garbage in the installer that would regularly mess up my clients who needlessly installed it
COBOL is still alive. As is its bastard child ABAP. And I'm afraid at least the latter will outlive all of us by many years.
There is a reason as even an iOS developer I tend to drag my feet updating my dev machine. It was not until January did I update it to the current OS. I was using Xcode 14 until then all because of **** Apple broke in Xcode 15 and Xcode 14 is not supported on the current OS.
Xcode and major iOS updates always scare me as that is when stuff breaks that has worked fine for years.
This made worse by lovely bugs I had to scramble to fix as the first release made on Xcode 15 caused a crash to happen in code that has not been touch in 10 years. Real kicker is their is another crash related to the deprecated method that is in Apple own car play framework and I can not fix that one as it is Apple own code causing it. A method they deprecated iOS 10 car play is using it for image resizing.
Objective-C is based on C, which is not 80s, but 70s. Let's hope people here don't find out...
Lol, snort.
Python is actually 5 years older than java.
Myself, I run all my server side production stuff on Logo. That little turtle is amazing !
That is not a metric of quality necessarily….
Java was pretty much dead back in the 90s. Nobody uses it anymore.
Who says the devs all use macs?Well, outside your little Apple-desktop-and-apps-world there is the great wide internet with big business servers, which are mainly driven by Java - surprise!
All developers for that well needed backends are now extremely handycapped - simple as that! Apple should asap provide a patch, or the fellow developers insisting of using a mac will be target for laughter from colleagues... 🤣
Exactly. The issue isn’t just the fact that there are bugs, bugs happen. The issue is the length of time Apple takes to fix them. (Of course more testing pre-release isn’t a bad thing either.)
I know …. Doesn’t mean there isn’t better tech around. COBOL is also still around but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.
I stand by my words!!
You joke, but the 90s don't want it either.
Yup, I was wondering why I was having rare crashes with PhpStorm recently. Thought it was to do with some project files I added at first.
I don’t develop in Java but at least the crashes aren’t happening frequently so not causing any major issues.
Maybe AppleSoft or Integer BASIC if it gets ambitious and really misunderstands.
I've seen a pretty big shift away from Java and toward Python in my role that involves IT and business consulting. Not sure if there are any hard stats but I will say that Python is typically what the younger developer set seems to be using. This is of course anecdotal and I would be interested in seeing actual numbers if they're available.