No, because a normal wallet can hold both.. In this case, Apple is the wallet and they choose what you can hold.That's like being upset that you can't use your Visa card to pay with Amex.
No, because a normal wallet can hold both.. In this case, Apple is the wallet and they choose what you can hold.That's like being upset that you can't use your Visa card to pay with Amex.
Admittedly don’t know how it works on Android but I’d hate to lose the convenience of Apple Pay, would be a shame if banks decided to start dropping support and forcing you to use their own separate apps, woild lose the whole convenience of Apples current implementation.
You mean like the App Store?Why should Apple Pay for R&D to develop hardware/software and let someone use it for free?
So do I. Note, however, that Apple isn’t blocking access to the hardware, but rather just a specific use for it. They do allow 3rd party access for other uses of the NFC hardware, just not for payments. It still isn’t right.I have to side with PayPal on this, it is not really right that Apple added a hardware feature into the phone that only Apple applications can access and use. It is my device, I should have the choice in what tap to pay options that I can use with NFC.
Apple didn’t develop any hardware, NFC has existed for over a decade it’s not proprietary of Apple. They just added it to their devices so they could be used for payments and many other things nfc can be used for.Why should Apple Pay for R&D to develop hardware/software and let someone use it for free?
Rubbish. They didn't add "NFC" as a feature and then restricted the use of it. "NFC" was never once advertised as a feature of the iPhone. What was advertised was ApplePay and Apple Wallet with the ability to handle contactless payments via NFC.
Users don’t care in any of this (or, I should say a huge number of users don’t care because Apple has a minority -20% or less- marketshare in all these countries, and it’s a minority of that minority that care).We'll see how it'll play out, but I frankly doubt that a significant portion of iOS users really bought the phone because it only allows one store or one payment option. People just go with it because they want their shiny iPhone.
Admittedly don’t know how it works on Android but I’d hate to lose the convenience of Apple Pay, would be a shame if banks decided to start dropping support and forcing you to use their own separate apps, woild lose the whole convenience of Apples current implementation.
How would that be a Problem? They made the camera and the apps store. It seems like the mistake was allowing any access to anything. They should delete the App Store and only offer APIs for 1st party apps. Everyone else can use web apps like the Original I phone just 15 years ago.The point is companies have to go through Apple Pay instead of directly interfacing with the NFC chip, which means Apple gets a cut no matter what.
It would be similar to if users were only able to take photos using the built-in Camera app.
They should delete the App Store and only offer APIs for 1st party apps. Everyone else can use web apps like the Original I phone just 15 years ago.
Great then there is a choice. Users can choose android in that case.On Android, people can use 3rd party apps, such as their bank’s own app, to make payments using their phones. With Apple it’s their way (Apple Pay) or the Long Island expressway.
No it’s not, and it’s a ridiculously bad-faith argument to even suggest the two scenarios are comparable; it’s ludicrous to have to decide what phone you want to buy based on if it is compatible with your bank card or payment service of choice. The metaphor is laughably flawed. There is no reason for Apple to limit NFC to Apple apps beyond giving Apple a competitive edge, one they aren’t not entitled to as the device manufacturer rather than end user.That's like being upset that you can't use your Visa card to pay with Amex.
By existing in their jurisdiction. Apple can leave if they don't like the laws and regulations they're subject to. What kind of question is "what right do they have?" Are you under the impression that its a new phenomenon for a company to be subject to the laws and regulations of the places they operate in?Rubbish. They didn't add "NFC" as a feature and then restricted the use of it. "NFC" was never once advertised as a feature of the iPhone. What was advertised was ApplePay and Apple Wallet with the ability to handle contactless payments via NFC.
What right does the EU have - or any other body, for that matter - to dictate to a private company which parts of their products must be accessible to the public? Should the EU force car makers to provide public APIs to all vehicle functions and all sensors? Etc., etc.
Why does the EU need to get into the middle of this at all? If Apple's refusal to create a public API to its NFC chip and mobile payment apps such as PayPal can't provide NFC payments on iOS, then consumers that value PayPal can vote with their wallets and buy an Android device! Let the free market decide these things!
They invented the mechanism that has allowed 1000s of banks around the world to allow their card to be linked to apples system. They also allow for FaceID that is the only one of its kind that is certified to be used for payments.Apple didn't invent NFC. They added it to the iPhone as a feature and then restricted the use of it.
How would that be a Problem? They made the camera and the apps store. It seems like the mistake was allowing any access to anything. They should delete the App Store and only offer APIs for 1st party apps. Everyone else can use web apps like the Original I phone just 15 years ago.
Ironically, no one in the US was interested in NFC payment when Apple introduced Apple Pay. It took years of work going bank by bank to build a secure functionality into the OS and hardware of the iPhone. The 3rd parties are garbage. It’s Apple’s built in security that makes people want to use it.Function vs App? That gets really grey when Apple uses a "function" to compete with 3rd party apps and/or uses it for its' own apps and cuts 3rd party out.
It’s not for free since iPhone owners buy hardware. Your way of thinking is exactly like any car manufacturer would demand their cars owner to pay fee for giving a lift/ride to someone else than the driver self. It sounds stupidWhy should Apple Pay for R&D to develop hardware/software and let someone use it for free?
Why would I have any less faith in Chase than I do Apple in making sure my payments are secure, seeing as how fraud results in significant losses for the issuer. It’s in the bank’s own interest to keep things secure.Ironically, no one in the US was interested in NFC payment when Apple introduced Apple Pay. It took years of work going bank by bank to build a secure functionality into the OS and hardware of the iPhone. The 3rd parties are garbage. It’s Apple’s built in security that makes people want to use it.