I see your point and sorta feel the same.... returning often is a financial decision and hence highly subjective. Tells me nothing about whether I should buy, return, or keep. I too prefer to hear about people's experiences and then let me decide how I feel about it and how it fits into my world (or not).
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Regret returning your AVP?
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I see your point and sorta feel the same.... returning often is a financial decision and hence highly subjective. Tells me nothing about whether I should buy, return, or keep. I too prefer to hear about people's experiences and then let me decide how I feel about it and how it fits into my world (or not).
This is a really really slippery slope. not saying you are wrong, but the need to validate personal decisions often leads people to need to put something down (or build it up) instead of being objective. I am the first to admit the AVP is not for many people right now, but it is right for me and I dont need any validation for that decision (which is a good thing, not going to get it here lol)
I have to disagree. One poster who ultimately returned the VP said he would have kept it at $3000, but $4000 was too much for him. That kind of information is valuable to me.
Yes, I understood later after the game that Paramount+ was having an issue with the live streaming.
I was so looking forward to using the VP longer than 30 minutes even if my face was hurting just for the Superbowl game.
Affordability was not a concern as I have a small business and would have written it off my taxes as part of office computer expenses.
I just found that day after day, I would not want to put the VP on my face.
Maybe I just have a sensitive set of facial bones and sinus issues ??
Still hoping for V2 - maybe then it will be better usable ?
how so? seriously. without knowing how much disposable income he has compared to yours there is no scalar. even then, people have very different comfort levels with levels of savings (or debt).
Whenever someone lists cost as their main objection (sometimes only) I learn zero about the device, a little bit about them.
I regret not regretting the regret of regretting buying it. 
I agree the information isn't very useful unless you have some context about the poster's financial status. On the other hand, that a 1000 dollars difference makes an impact on their decision is itself a clue to their financial status. In any case, it's just one data point among many. As you say, maybe this price sensitivity reveals more about the poster than the device. But that extra information helps me put their other observations and reactions to the device in fuller context.
I would be interested in the used prices of these, to get a feel for how much they hold their value.
There must now be some buyers outside the returns window who might be considering selling e.g. on ebay...
This is probably the only Apple product I've ever returned. My reasoning is that after not touching it for more than a week, I thought I just wasn't ready for it yet, and I couldn't justify that much on my cc. I felt a tinge of regret after returning, but it quickly disappeared. I'll definitely get the next gen.
I'd expect at least at 25% hair cut out of the gate
You have to clear Apple pricing by a good margin on something like this, where the desirability of "new" and "new warranty" and "return policy" all factor in pretty heavily.
The more expensive a tech item, the more likely folks are to be a bit cautious and prefer buying from a first party (or equivalent)
I'm even wondering about the "where" of selling these.
Quite a product to put on eBay and then navigate eBay/Paypal policies as a seller..
My heart goes out to anyone selling one of these on there
Just a slight aside to all those posts citing an opinion along the lines of “just get X, basically the same but way cheaper and way more apps”
Looking at a new Porsche 911? Just get a Yugo. Way cheaper and easier to repair!
Not to disparage either Yugo nor your preferred VR/AR headset but anybody in the market for an AVP or a 911 is unlikely to be content with those alternatives…
Looking at a new Porsche 911? Just get a Yugo. Way cheaper and easier to repair!
Not to disparage either Yugo nor your preferred VR/AR headset but anybody in the market for an AVP or a 911 is unlikely to be content with those alternatives…
Except the Quest has better hand tracking, ACTUAL SOCIAL apps, many more games, can be exercised while wearing, AND soon better sports experiences…
This video comparing Apple Vision Pro hand tracking to the Meta Quest 3 is mesmerizing.
Holonautic co-founder and developer Dennys Kuhnert says he is “both disappointed and impressed” by the Vision Pro’s performance and showed off this comparison of the two headsets with a real-time visualization tool. As he wrote in another post, “The quality and accuracy is fantastic but the lag...
ESPN Edge Brings an Immersive VR Sports Experience to Meta Quest
ESPN today announced Meta as the fourth member of the ESPN Edge Innovation Center joining Accenture, Microsoft and Verizon.
espnpressroom.com
In this uk we have a ’distance selling law’
If you buy ANYTHING online or through a catalogue, you have 14 days to inspect and return.
There are no limits, however there are exceptions if you new that the supplier was making something bespoke to your needs.
Wrong, nice try, the hand tracking was horrible, amongst othersExcept the Quest has better hand tracking, ACTUAL SOCIAL apps, many more games, can be exercised while wearing, AND soon better sports experiences…
This video comparing Apple Vision Pro hand tracking to the Meta Quest 3 is mesmerizing.
Holonautic co-founder and developer Dennys Kuhnert says he is “both disappointed and impressed” by the Vision Pro’s performance and showed off this comparison of the two headsets with a real-time visualization tool. As he wrote in another post, “The quality and accuracy is fantastic but the lag...www.theverge.com
ESPN Edge Brings an Immersive VR Sports Experience to Meta Quest
ESPN today announced Meta as the fourth member of the ESPN Edge Innovation Center joining Accenture, Microsoft and Verizon.espnpressroom.com
Having hiked a local trail over the weekend, I'd prefer seeing less people. There's so much trash dropped along the trail despite a large trash can at the start of the trail loop. Pack out what you pack in, or spare the wilderness your unneeded presence.
Have you ever used a vision pro? I have, and I own a quest 3. The hand tracking on the quest 3 is absolute trash in comparison. As are the visuals in literally every way.Except the Quest has better hand tracking, ACTUAL SOCIAL apps, many more games, can be exercised while wearing, AND soon better sports experiences…
This video comparing Apple Vision Pro hand tracking to the Meta Quest 3 is mesmerizing.
Holonautic co-founder and developer Dennys Kuhnert says he is “both disappointed and impressed” by the Vision Pro’s performance and showed off this comparison of the two headsets with a real-time visualization tool. As he wrote in another post, “The quality and accuracy is fantastic but the lag...
ESPN Edge Brings an Immersive VR Sports Experience to Meta Quest
ESPN today announced Meta as the fourth member of the ESPN Edge Innovation Center joining Accenture, Microsoft and Verizon.espnpressroom.com
Well I caved and bought an AVP again but this time on ebay brand new for $2900 before shipping/taxes. I know buying on ebay is a risk but this would be a great deal than paying full price
Wish you only a safe and legitimate transaction. I am shocked it's already on sale on ebay...the earliest return window was just last Friday.
Indeed you are of course correct in the rights we have, but common sense tells me Apple will be keeping track of you, what you buy, and if you return something and build up a secret profile on you as a customer, your name, address and contact details.
If people think I'm wrong.
Please try ordering a brand new Vision Pro once a month, and returning it for a full refund after 14 days each time.
So over a year, you would in effect have a Vision Pro for 6 months ownership and never needed to pay anything.
See how long Apple will let you keep doing that, as I said they will be tracking your purchases secretly and ban you from buying another device after perhaps the 2nd, 3rd or 4th return I'd guess
If Apple are not tracking you and keeping records on you and you can keep buying and returning all year then I would be shocked and very surprised.
(Does it actually say in any of their terms of service you are not allowed to do this?)
It’s possible Apple tracks, but has anyone ever heard of Apple denying a sale or return because of this? I don’t think I’ve heard of any major retailer actually doing this. I’d be curious to hear if anyone has.
wow. how can you say this?
Anyone reading that comment please disregard as its completely inaccurate.
The Quest 3 is far from a toy. It is a very capable device and very good quality considering the price.
It is more than capable of a lot of things the VP can do although of course not all of them - but a feature set which may well completely satisfy a proportion of VP users.
I think you are right.
Our UK distance selling law is all well and good but a lot of retailers will stipulate that the item must be returned unused and unopened and in a re-saleable condition.
Apple seems to allow you to open it, use it for 2 weeks, and then return it.
Id be very surprised if they didnt intervene - and also am surprised at how many YouTubers or social media wannabes seem to get away with it time and again.
Frankly. Id support Apple cracking down after a reasonable amount of times - its a great policy and very much appreciated but definitely not designed for abuse.
Haven't heard of any Apple denying any returns. Not the case for other sellers.
Stores may punish shoppers for too many returns
Some popular retailers are tracking and monitoring customer sales data through a third-party service. Their goal? To identify problematic shoppers they suspect of fraud or return abuse.
www.creditkarma.com
I feel like I would be skeptical of anyone selling a month old device for a $1500+ loss.