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Review: 2023 Genesis Electrified GV70 Offers Lots of Tech, but You'll Need a Cable for CarPlay
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It's dying already.
But it's a bigger problem. Most of the manufacturer shipped ones have a design life of 5-8 years or so after which various levels of necromancy will be required to keep the things going. Seen this a lot recently with friends. Two friends had BMW ICE systems fail completely. And some of the car functions are only on the damn screen.
When I bought a car recently, I looked around for some very specific requirements in this space. Found one without an ICE in it at all. Just a dumb BT implementation for music/voice. And tactile controls for everything. (Dacia Duster). Whack it on the dashboard and my 13 pro is the carplay screen and Siri works fine with everything as does the media control stalk and hands free. It's perfect.
People buy a car for more than just range. The 2024 Nissan Leaf is FWD, the Genesis is dual motor AWD. The Leaf is smaller than the Genesis. The upper level Leaf SV Plus (60 kWh battery) has half the horsepower of the Genesis. The Genesis is more of a "luxury" vehicle and yes, the price reflects that.
As far as range is concerned, the EPA estimated range of the 2024 Leaf SV Plus (with larger 60 kWh battery) is 212 miles. The range of the Genesis Electrified GV70 is 236 miles.
I was in Orlando for Thanksgiving and we rented a Jeep Wrangler with wireless CarPlay --- I mean we didn't rent it because it had wireless CarPlay, my wife really wanted to try driving a Jeep and it happened to have it.
I absolutely love having wireless CarPlay - and sure I prefer using wired CarPlay because, especially when you're traveling, battery life matters. However, it is so super convenient to just hop in the car and have it connect without fumbling for cables.
I absolutely love having wireless CarPlay - and sure I prefer using wired CarPlay because, especially when you're traveling, battery life matters. However, it is so super convenient to just hop in the car and have it connect without fumbling for cables.
Whenever MR posts a review of Car Play integration for a new make/model of car and/or an article about Car Play functionality in either a specific make/model of car or for cars in general, this gives the more well-heeled MR members, who are mainly from SoCal, the opportunity to flex publicly while debating the relative merits of their Mercedes and BMW sedans (and occasionally also Porsche and Tesla), ie, how they really enjoy the Car Play in their BMW XYZ Series, and overall are enjoying their BMW much more than their Mercedes, which they never really liked, and traded in after only one year, etc.
This is a gorgeous car. I really really regret that 4 years ago I didnt order a Cybertruck. Now I need an alternative while I wait 5 years maybe this can be it.
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This is the first time I’ve heard of Genesis, as far as I know, it doesn’t exist in my country. Is it really on the level of BMW and Mercedes?
Usually where I am from for a big vehicle like this it would be BMW vs Mercedes vs Porsche and maybe Audi / Volvo.
I think it refers to a place in America but don’t really get the inference. I suppose rich people comparing nice cars?
Wired CarPlay is no inconvenience. Every vehicle made with it also has USB ports right above the wireless charging pad. We just bought a couple of one foot long cables, and there,s no mess or tangles, and when my brother showed off his wireless CarPlay, it was nowhere near as responsive. The built-in tech on his BMW works way better. Especially the voice controls. Our 2023 XC40 is wired CarPlay, but you can't integrate with the car like the built-in voice control, which can turn on the heater or AC (including each of the 4 seats and the steering wheel), set the cruise control, change camera views, navigate, turn the interior lights on or off, and way more. Seamlessly.
Funny though: the USB ports in the front are -A, and the ones in the back are -C!
Funny though: the USB ports in the front are -A, and the ones in the back are -C!
I actually have switched back to using a cord for CarPlay even though my Ford EV has Wireless CarPlay built-in.
When using it wirelessly the GPS sensor can become incredibly inaccurate. It will think you're going down side streets at 70MPH when driving on the interstates or suddenly flipping directions (which the algorithm should know is not likely). Doesn't happen all the time but often enough that it's unreliable for navigation.
I've heard mine isn't the only vehicle model that has this issue and it's somewhat prevalent with Wireless CarPlay.
Crazy that this car costs that much and has that many features BUT still doesn't have wireless carplay and relies on USB-A
This has been an issue on all Hyundai vehicles for like 3 years now. I can't believe they still haven't fixed it. Especially considering paying more money makes you lose Wireless CarPlay.
It's 2023, all vehicles should only be using USB-C by now. Cars manufactured today will be on the road for at least a decade. Can you imagine driving around with some obsolete micro-USB ports from pre-2012? I can't imagine it's a cost cutting measure in this expensive of a vehicle which makes it more confusing.
100%. 300 miles really should be considered the floor for a premium EV. Especially considering the EPA range is a very optimistic estimate of what an EV can achieve under the best of circumstances.
For instance my Ford has an EPA estimated range of 270 miles. Now that it's 40 degrees outside, I'm not making it more than 210 miles per charge with my highway commute. Cold and high speeds are brutal on EV range. A similar hit on this Genesis would only give you about 185 miles of range.
Who cares whether it’s USB-A or USB-C? You buy that cable once and forget about it.
There are plenty of wired-to-wireless CarPlay adapters on the market, they work just fine. But for longer rides the battery life of an iPhone becomes an issue.
There are plenty of wired-to-wireless CarPlay adapters on the market, they work just fine. But for longer rides the battery life of an iPhone becomes an issue.
Yes, i have Apple Car with cable…if it was wireless, i will never take the phone from my pocket.
For longer rides cable is a issue too…in the summer, my phone always shuts down because overheatig, when i use CarPlay
So now it’s a major inconvenience to take a phone out of your pocket 😂😂😂
what have we become?
plus I can’t imagine how awkward it must be driving with one of the larger phones in a pocket. I am a Luddite so still use a 12 mini.
meanwhile I so want to buy a GV70 regular but they don’t sell them in Panama 😢
what have we become?
plus I can’t imagine how awkward it must be driving with one of the larger phones in a pocket. I am a Luddite so still use a 12 mini.
meanwhile I so want to buy a GV70 regular but they don’t sell them in Panama 😢
I'm totally with you on this as wireless CarPlay is often horrendously slow and quite unpredictable. When wired, when I change a song its pretty much instantaneous, with wireless, I could wait up to 3 seconds for a reaction and that's just a crappy experience.
And yet I agree with this also - HOWEVER I found that the majority of USB charging in cars is ridiculously slow that I'm not too worried about killing the battery quicker than usual.
They can try to change the logos, make them look similar to European luxury cars, etc. but all it amounts to is putting a silk hat on a pig. Hyundai's, Kia's and the like are trash. You can disagree all you want, but all that tells me is that you've never owned a decent vehicle. Has your Kia or Hyundai been recalled lately, due to risk of fire? Seems to happen every couple of years or so.
Personally, I wish Apple required car manufacturers to have something besides the touch-screen for interacting with CarPlay. Maybe it's just me, but trying to hit a touch target while driving is challenging.
Depends on the type of charging — wireless charging in cars is slow AF, but will kill your battery nonetheless)