Safari 17.3 fails to install on Ventura (maybe M2-specific?) [UPDATE: Fixed]

camelia · Jan 30, 2024

bogdanw said:
Just an impression Both ~160MB
328176 bytes Safari17.3VenturaAuto-18617.2.4.11.9.pkg
328056 bytes Safari17.3VenturaAuto-18617.2.4.11.11.pkg

Hello @bogdanw

Which app are you using for the direct links, because SUS Inspector v2.1 is only offering until macOS Monterey
I can see some direct links for macOS Ventura and macOS Sonoma:

But I can not see the Direct Download Link for Safari for macOS Ventura v17.3 (18617.2.4.11.9, 18617) OR
Safari for macOS Ventura v17.3 (18617.2.4.11.11, 18617)

Any help you can provide me is more than Welcome

Thanks
Camelia

bogdanw · Jan 30, 2024

camelia said:
Which app are you using for the direct links,

No app needed, you can open the seed catalog directly in Safari and search for Safari17.3VenturaAuto
Ventura https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz
OSX/macOS software update urls 10.3 to 14
https://gist.github.com/b0gdanw/fe47eb02f861f509474be7a3840122b4

petisjioweelsha · Jan 30, 2024

After installing Safari 17.3 from Software Update on Ventura 13.6.4 I see that Safari.app has a code signing problem according to both Whats Your Sign and Apparency.app

bogdanw · Jan 31, 2024

petisjioweelsha said:
After installing Safari 17.3 from Software Update on Ventura 13.6.4 I see that Safari.app has a code signing problem according to both Whats Your Sign and Apparency.app

I see the same. 18617.2.4.11.9 was properly signed, 18617.2.4.11.11 is not. Only on Ventura, the Monterey version 18617.2.4.11.11 is not affected.

camelia · Feb 3, 2024

bogdanw said:
No app needed, you can open the seed catalog directly in Safari and search for Safari17.3VenturaAuto
Ventura https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz
OSX/macOS software update urls 10.3 to 14
https://gist.github.com/b0gdanw/fe47eb02f861f509474be7a3840122b4

Hello @bogdanw it is me again

You can add to SUS Inspector v2.1 the macOS Ventura catalog

A) Go at

Code:

https://gist.github.com/b0gdanw/fe47eb02f861f509474be7a3840122b4

B) Copy the link

Code:

13 (Ventura)
CustomerSeed
https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-13customerseed-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog

C) Open SUS Inspector v2.1 and click on + to add a new catalog

D) Double Click on "New Catalog" and type a catalog name

E) Double click on the empty space and copy and paste the URL

F) Wait for SUS Inspector v2.1 to download all the catalogs and you will have macOS Ventura in the Catalogs Group

G) Now you can see all the macOS Ventura updates, including macOS Ventura Safari Version 17.3 (18617.2.4.11.11, 18617) which was released 29 Jan, 2024

That's it

No Luck with macOS Sonoma yet, I will give it another try 😱

Thanks
Camelia

bogdanw · Feb 3, 2024

camelia said:
No Luck with macOS Sonoma yet, I will give it another try 😱

Don’t forget to add .gz at the end of the Sonoma link. It should look like this before adding it into SUP Inspector

Code:

https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-14customerseed-14-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

asus389 · Feb 4, 2024

So I installed 17.3 via softwareupdate in system settings when ventura 13.6.4 came out recently. It shows 17.3 is installed and it works ok. Its 18617.2.4.11.9. But tonight I see a Safari update and its 17.3 is being offered again. Is anyone seeing this? Why would 17.3 be offered twice? Should I installed it again?

bogdanw · Feb 5, 2024

asus389 said:
So I installed 17.3 via softwareupdate in system settings when ventura 13.6.4 came out recently. It shows 17.3 is installed and it works ok. Its 18617.2.4.11.9. But tonight I see a Safari update and its 17.3 is being offered again. Is anyone seeing this? Why would 17.3 be offered twice? Should I installed it again?

As Apple hasn’t said anything, as far as we can tell from reports on this thread, 18617.2.4.11.11 was released only to fix installation problems for M2 Macs. If 18617.2.4.11.9 installed on your system, 18617.2.4.11.11 doesn’t offer anything more.

asus389 · Feb 5, 2024

I ran the update, the version now reports as:

Version 17.3 (18617.2.4.11.11, 18617)

This is a 2017 intel MBP 13 inch. Maybe they wanted to update the version for all devices for consistency? Worked fine before and works ok now as far as I can tell.

bogdanw · Feb 5, 2024

asus389 said:
This is a 2017 intel MBP 13 inch. Maybe they wanted to update the version for all devices for consistency? Worked fine before and works ok now as far as I can tell.

It would be difficult to release Safari just for some Macs. It’s easier to re-release for all with a higher build number. It’s not the first time Apple has done it.

The only problem reported so far with 18617.2.4.11.11 is that it’s not properly signed #53
So far, it doesn’t seem to impact usage.

camelia · Feb 8, 2024

bogdanw said:
It would be difficult to release Safari just for some Macs. It’s easier to re-release for all with a higher build number. It’s not the first time Apple has done it.

The only problem reported so far with 18617.2.4.11.11 is that it’s not properly signed #53
So far, it doesn’t seem to impact usage.

Will Safari Technology Preview Version 188 fix the signed issue or it useless?

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/04/61/052-51501-A_9ELOZF6HQ9/jarkjgqaj86si89rn9h7pnztps9crizwmo/SafariTechPreview.pkg

I do not understand the term WebKit when it refers "Safari Technology Preview includes the latest WebKit enhancements." Can you use another words for me to understand please?

Thanks
Camelia

camelia · Feb 8, 2024

bogdanw said:
Don’t forget to add .gz at the end of the Sonoma link. It should look like this before adding it into SUP Inspector

Code:

https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-14customerseed-14-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

No is without .gz at the end of the Sonoma link

It seems SUS Inspector v2.1 only supports to add only 1 catalog per session

Thanks
Camelia

bogdanw · Feb 8, 2024

camelia said:
Will Safari Technology Preview Version 188 fix the signed issue or it useless?

Yes, that version appears to be properly signed. But as mentioned before, Safari Technology Preview doesn’t replace the release version, it installs alongside it. So you will still have Safari 17.3 18617.2.4.11.11 and Safari Technology Preview 17.4 18619.1.2.1.1.
If you want to replace 17.3 18617.2.4.11.11, you can install the beta version 17.4 (18618.1.13.11.5)

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/22/07/052-49201-A_HXGXTKN01O/4chpvhyilgwr8ifjj76jn03x3hvres2c9t/Safari17.4VenturaAutoSeed.pkg

As you can’t uninstall the beta version, only install a newer beta or the release, I think it’s probably best to wait for Apple to release Safari 17.4.

camelia said:
I do not understand the term WebKit when it refers "Safari Technology Preview includes the latest WebKit enhancements." Can you use another words for me to understand please?

WebKit is the internal engine of Safari, responsible for interpreting the code of webpages and displaying it. New features are tested first in Safari Technology Preview, then implemented in Safari Beta and finally in the release version of Safari.

If you turn on “Show features for web developers” in Safari, you will see the Feature Flags settings in Safari Settings, where Apple lists the features that are Stable, Testable or in Preview.
https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/ibrw1075/17.0/mac/13.0

bogdanw · Feb 10, 2024

Safari 17.3.1 has been released for macOS Monterey and Ventura
09 Feb 2024 "This update has no published CVE entries." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
If you don't see the update in System Settings:

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/23/37/052-45295-A_LMFCM6HQ8W/at6oqdsk9rqllbz1434mmtot6ukvaxkhaa/Safari17.3.1VenturaAuto.pkg

katbel · Feb 10, 2024

bogdanw said:
Safari 17.3.1 has been released for macOS Monterey and Ventura
09 Feb 2024 "This update has no published CVE entries." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
If you don't see the update in System Settings:

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/23/37/052-45295-A_LMFCM6HQ8W/at6oqdsk9rqllbz1434mmtot6ukvaxkhaa/Safari17.3.1VenturaAuto.pkg

No problems to install it from System Settings this time

asus389 · Feb 10, 2024

So it now reports:

Version 17.3.1 (18617.2.4.11.12, 18617)

camelia · Feb 10, 2024

bogdanw said:
Safari 17.3.1 has been released for macOS Monterey and Ventura
09 Feb 2024 "This update has no published CVE entries." https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
If you don't see the update in System Settings:

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/23/37/052-45295-A_LMFCM6HQ8W/at6oqdsk9rqllbz1434mmtot6ukvaxkhaa/Safari17.3.1VenturaAuto.pkg

katbel said:
No problems to install it from System Settings this time

asus389 said:
So it now reports:

Version 17.3.1 (18617.2.4.11.12, 18617)

Thank you I 💕guys

Camelia

MarkC426 · Mar 16, 2024

MarkC426 said:
M2 Studio.
Yeah I read that document, but it should work through SU.....🤨

I will probably just wait till next update.

13.6.5 update produced the same error message.

I ended up doing a reinstall Mac OS from the Recovery screen, only took about 45-60 mins....

bogdanw · Mar 17, 2024

Safari 17.4 for Ventura

Code:

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/30/42/052-59885-A_5IXDIWICU3/q9megna20yvg9mnjssbc92f9ogq8w5itbx/Safari17.4VenturaAuto.pkg

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