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Spoilers "The Morning Show" Discussion Thread (May Contain Spoilers)
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I really enjoyed season2. I think the writers had intentionally or unintentionally reflected on how so called cancel culture had reconstructed the media and the world we are in. I loved that they decide to give Mitch a more sympathized perspective compared to season 1, that episode in Italy was really a highlight for me. It was chaotic, all over the place just like the world we were living back when Covid hit us hard.
My wife and I watched seasons 1 and 2 back to back over the last three weeks. We enjoyed season 1 but felt that season 2 showed a steep decline in believability.
Personally I could see no reason for having either Mitch or Chip in season 2 - all of the Mitch scenes just felt like tacked on subplots and distracted from the drama of the newsroom. Re Chip - there really is nothing to him - he's just a whipping boy cipher without any interest to his character. Also the scene in the car with him and Alex when they were travelling to see Mitch's ex-wife was toe-curling. It was like something out of musical theatre - I really did expect them to burst spontaneously into song...
Personally I could see no reason for having either Mitch or Chip in season 2 - all of the Mitch scenes just felt like tacked on subplots and distracted from the drama of the newsroom. Re Chip - there really is nothing to him - he's just a whipping boy cipher without any interest to his character. Also the scene in the car with him and Alex when they were travelling to see Mitch's ex-wife was toe-curling. It was like something out of musical theatre - I really did expect them to burst spontaneously into song...
With Chip i think it would have been better if Alex had gone to her but he'd just turned her down flat.
The new season is very bad, it’s only romantic drama. And the brother of Bradley, why but why he has to do what he has to do? Triple 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yeah, the new season pretty much s…s.. and it’s SOOOO SLOWWWWW… not like invasion slow, but too dammed slow. And I can’t figure out if the plot and drama is closer to a Hallmark holiday show or more like a novella… unsure. Sadly, one does have to see what the heck happens overall, but it’s BOTTOM OF THE QUEUE at the moment.
I think they should have rewrote part or all of some of the episodes to get rid of covid/lockdown stuff that nobody wants to relive.
I agree that no one wants to relive it, but it is part of the historical record... just like 9/11 and overturning Roe v Wade...
Well they did jump from 2020 in season 2 to 2022 in season 3
That got the story out of the Covid years.
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It’s getting worst & worst, I’m very puzzled about why it went so bad. Maybe the novelty effect of S01 is gone but come on. It has to be the lesbian the only one to figure out Bradley’s moron brother adventure in the Capitol. Triple 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I still find it enjoyable though S3 seems a bit rudderless compared to before. I think the politics are a bit too overt, it works better if a bit more subtly is used.
The Morning Show is “a woman’s show.”……. Allow me to explain.
The writers have tried hard to create a media world that reflects the thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors that most women would love to live and work in. To do this, they put women in most of the positions of power. The show anchors are mostly women (6 women/2 men (only 1 man after Steve Carell’s character dies). The News Director and her assistant are both women. Most of the staff are women, and even the owner of the company and Head of the Boardroom is a woman. She literally inherited the company from her father. And yet, somehow, all of these women in positions of power believe they are “oppressed” by virtue of being born female.
Only women’s issues from a woman’s perspective are celebrated. All other ideas or perspectives are vilified as evil, bad, immoral, unethical, etc. There is only one opinion allowed to be considered in this show - those of women alone. If you disagree, then you’re wrong, and the writers are happy to escort you from the building.
Of course, no show about news (I mean women) would be complete without a few men to complain about:
Enter one male anchor that is vilified as a sexual assault perpetrator though he never lied to or tricked anyone. And vilified not just at work, but on the national news. He’s fired, cancelled, and later dies in a car crash. (But when Jennifer Aniston‘s character sleeps with her boss/owner of the news network/and owner of its parent company (and right before a major shareholder vote), then that’s just her personal life. That doesn’t belong on the news.)
Enter one male CEO who is vilified (for being a male CEO) for trying to protect the company from sexual misconduct legalities (unethical, sure, but arguably part of his job as CEO) and is ousted from the company for doing so, and of course is roasted on the news for it. (If the CEO were a woman she wouldn’t have been fired or roasted in the news for doing the same thing.)
Enter one new male CEO. He’s corrupt and manipulative, but it’s okay because he is a fun, likable, showman, who panders to all the women around him, and helps them succeed, so that the company can succeed.
Enter one male news producer/editor who is always being disrespected and treated poorly. He is a nice guy who is good at his job, and helps the people around him, but being good at your job is not enough to be treated respectfully at work if women think you’re just a nice guy they can abuse verbally/emotionally (at work!) (If a man did that he would be fired immediately!)
Enter the other male anchor who tries hard to succeed, but can’t move forward in his career because his female bosses need to make sure to leave opportunities open for other women.
Enter a female Anchor‘s brother. He is a very troubled, problematic thinking, poor decision making man. ok, sure. The problem though is that he is far, far more so those things, than any very troubled, problematic, poor decision making man I have seen on any movie, TV show, or real life ever in my entire lifetime. He’s not as much a troubled man and brother as he is a contradicting set of unattached ideas. He isn’t even as much of a flesh and blood human in a male body as he is a coerced, convoluted set of story points designed to advance his sister’s storyline, but then written and cast as a male character because the writers wanted him to be “problematic.” Admittedly, I haven’t watched “reality TV” in a long time, but I don’t think the writers like men too much! D*mn!
We have a solitary, middle-aged career man, surrounded by several women in positions of power (even higher power than him), espousing to believe everything that women say that they believe, and himself bemoaning ”the Patriarchal Cesspool that we all live in,” as if that is something any man would ever say. (As if that “Patriarchal Cesspool” bears any resemblance to the reality of how we all live life for at least the last decade if not longer.) And this is what the writers of The Morning Show believe constitutes “equality!” (Male subservience to women)
These writers seem to have forgotten, or more likely don’t even care, that half the world is not female, and more importantly that those non-female “others” are legitimately allowed to think, believe, and behave differently than the women in this show would want them to.
I have seen many, many movies and TV shows that approach difficult subject matter with multiple different perspectives and opinions. Most attempt to remain respectful and balanced on their stances, even while leaning partially to one side or the other. This show literally writes its opinions in lipstick, holds up its middle finger to those that disagree, and then posts it to social media (then plays the victim when the “others” react to them) - just like women!
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Thanks for your long message. The overall problem of this show is the accumulation of petty drama (love triangle Cory/Bradley/Laura) and the constant "yes I love you, no I don't". This doesn't bring anything to the show but just fill space. You had the "problematic brother" coming from nowhere with a ridiculous plot on the Capitol thingy and now he's gone.
On top of that, covering contemporary events like COVID, war in Ukraine, Georges Floyd, Russian hacking, abortion really feels like "social justice warrior", but what's the end game here? The way its treated is not very subtle to say the least and it's very biased: we hear one part of the story but not the other. So it is just about being triggered and offended. It feels like okay I woke up today and I will be offended about this.
Of course, I don't expect a TV show to explain the root cause of why we are here today but with a bit of subtlety the message would have more impact than just treating the first layer of being offended and not going one or two layer under. The Roe thingy episode is a perfect example: we focus on the reaction of the Black character rather that why and how the Court came to this decision. And next episode, I expect to be offended by something else.
What I liked at the beginning is the thirst of power, the manipulation of the crowd, the Fourth Estate or Fourth Power and the race to ratings. There are a lot of cynicism in this media industry and it should be probably treated like it started. Then it switched to SJW.
On top of that, covering contemporary events like COVID, war in Ukraine, Georges Floyd, Russian hacking, abortion really feels like "social justice warrior", but what's the end game here? The way its treated is not very subtle to say the least and it's very biased: we hear one part of the story but not the other. So it is just about being triggered and offended. It feels like okay I woke up today and I will be offended about this.
Of course, I don't expect a TV show to explain the root cause of why we are here today but with a bit of subtlety the message would have more impact than just treating the first layer of being offended and not going one or two layer under. The Roe thingy episode is a perfect example: we focus on the reaction of the Black character rather that why and how the Court came to this decision. And next episode, I expect to be offended by something else.
What I liked at the beginning is the thirst of power, the manipulation of the crowd, the Fourth Estate or Fourth Power and the race to ratings. There are a lot of cynicism in this media industry and it should be probably treated like it started. Then it switched to SJW.
You’re right about the drama of the love triangle. That’s basically a literary requirement for any TV show and move. Not just limited to the drama genre.
The problem with it is that they want it to be there to balance the women’s issues they approach, but at they same time they don’t take it seriously enough for the audience to care about - maybe just male audiences - or perhaps just me. Maybe they don’t want to spend too much time on it when there are “more pressing matters” to club over the (metaphorical) head. Who knows?
Things are finally picking up the pace a bit as we reach the end, i enjoyed the latest episode quite a lot.
Agreed! I enjoyed it too. Things are getting crazy again! I love the chaos.
I wonder what they will do in the 4th season?
On a sidenote... it's great that Jon Hamm finally got to work with AppleTV+
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GOD, from DNF on I’m about at the point that I don’t even want to know the ending… I’d say this has jumped the shark, but that would be unfair to Henry Winkler.. it’s become sOOO predictable, like a novella or something. And the interpersonal intrigue is boring at this point.
I get the feeling that most of the actors were just ‘phoning it in’ at some point during the filming/production. It’s totally lost any sense of plot/story/character development.
Fortunately, I don’t think it will be renewed and we can remove it from our queues.
I get the feeling that most of the actors were just ‘phoning it in’ at some point during the filming/production. It’s totally lost any sense of plot/story/character development.
Fortunately, I don’t think it will be renewed and we can remove it from our queues.
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It hasn't. Think this season is great. But of course everybody's mileage will vary.
For me this was the best Season of this Series so far.
With Season 1 I just didn't get what the appeal was, but Cory was great.
Season 2, well it was the Corona season, made it a bit interesting at the time but Cory went from mastermind to whiny which was weird.
In Season 3 Cory was back to the mastermind and got an enemy who was on his level. It was really suspenseful/exciting. Can't wait to see what they come up with for Season 4. But I guess that will take a longer time because of the strikes this year.
With Season 1 I just didn't get what the appeal was, but Cory was great.
Season 2, well it was the Corona season, made it a bit interesting at the time but Cory went from mastermind to whiny which was weird.
In Season 3 Cory was back to the mastermind and got an enemy who was on his level. It was really suspenseful/exciting. Can't wait to see what they come up with for Season 4. But I guess that will take a longer time because of the strikes this year.