I guess you could say that, if by “bad” you mean a threat to US national security. So with that as the meaning, one can’t dismiss that argument with the word “just”. As I’ve said a few times in this thread now, I agree pretty much all social media companies have shady practices, but a potentially China-controlled social media app is fundamentally different from a US-based app because one is controlled by people who are just after money, the other is potentially controlled by people who actively want to compromise US national security. Completely different levels of security threats.
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U.S. Senator Calls on Apple and Google to Ban TikTok From App Stores
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Google, Meta, Amazon, Reddit, etc. all chocked full of “former” intelligence agents.
I don’t subscribe to nationalism when it comes to manipulation of the public. I’m not turning a blind eye to spooks being in these positions, I just think they’re all manipulative bastards and I don’t support one or the other because one side can wave the flag of my country in front of me. I think that’s the difference in mindset between you and I.
Might end up being banned. Not happy with app sending data to China.
Noooo! But what about all the advantages those that don’t waste time on those platforms gain by just letting others dwell on it! (tongue in cheek)
I’m a contrarian on this.
While we can agree that it should never have existed (just like drugs, Twitter, Instagram and heavy alcohol abuse shouldn’t either), it is completely an individual’s choice to partake on a daily plunge of time wasted away… and even when the average human lifespan is only 72.6 years or 26,517 days (meaning that by 35yo you only have about ~13500 days left) people still want to partake on it… whether privacy is respected or not. To put it into perspective, if you spend ONE dollar a day as a 35yo you would only need $13500 to live until your deathbed is ready.
Know what? I’ll bite, if it gets banned I’ll support sideloading with all my strength no matter what and even promote TikTok to be pre-sideloaded on new phones. Somewhat not fully joking.
I’m a contrarian on this.
While we can agree that it should never have existed (just like drugs, Twitter, Instagram and heavy alcohol abuse shouldn’t either), it is completely an individual’s choice to partake on a daily plunge of time wasted away… and even when the average human lifespan is only 72.6 years or 26,517 days (meaning that by 35yo you only have about ~13500 days left) people still want to partake on it… whether privacy is respected or not. To put it into perspective, if you spend ONE dollar a day as a 35yo you would only need $13500 to live until your deathbed is ready.
Phew! There’s some good news, god forbid those people start using all that newfound free time to fix their finances, upgrade their skills and craft, and become better and more productive members of society; that would mean more competition for you and me in general, and I would rather there be LESS competition.
Know what? I’ll bite, if it gets banned I’ll support sideloading with all my strength no matter what and even promote TikTok to be pre-sideloaded on new phones. Somewhat not fully joking.
Their leaders are dictators. They censor 99% of online speech. Held to account? 🤣
Just to be clear, I don’t support any social media platforms either, which is why I’m not on them. I think it would be great for society in general if they all shut down. The reason I’m only speaking out against Tik Tok in particular is because 1) I don’t believe there is any legal grounds to ban the US apps at the moment, and 2) again, I do believe the potential threat that Tik Tok poses is much higher, potentially up to compromising national security, for the reasons I’ve mentioned in this thread.
I agree with the first part, I’m also not on social media.
I just don’t subscribe to “national security”. Our Intelligence agencies are completely out of control and do not reflect the priorities of people, just hegemony. America is just 14 companies in a trench coat under the guise of a functional country.
So the TikTok we get in the West is not the same as the TikTok in China and the TikTok in China has a different name 🤔
idk if they use a different name but yeah its not the same tiktok in the west. its used more for educational and career aspiration purposes, none of that dancing and silly stuffs we see in the west.
Yeah, has a different name. Can't recall the name. Watched a video on it recently. The logo is a different colour logo, too. It's a different app. TikTok as we know it is not allowed in China.
which makes sense from a marketing perspective, if this chinese tiktok has a ounce of educational and aspiration projection it surely don't want to be associated by name at least, to the western tiktok which literally just promotes nonsense.
It's full of weirdos and child groomers, too. My friend had to take her teen's phone away with what was happening to her on the app. I wouldn't be against them banning the app. I think short form video apps in general are one of the worst things to ever happen society.
that just it though, its not just tiktok, you see tiktok style videos on youtube and instagram as well, banning tiktok isn't a viable solution anymore now that other platforms have jumped on this bandwagon. if you ban tiktok these users will just migrate over to other platform.
Apple released data on how many requests they have got from the American government. That does not equate to mass surveillance. Not sure about the case with Google though.
Another step towards the slow fracture of global internet. More and more, internet looks drastically different depending on where you live.
Those are ones we’re somewhat allowed to know about.
Look up the National Security Letter programs. Any company that receives one isn’t allowed to let anyone know they’ve been requested.
After 9/11 they have the power to just wholesale tap communications (AT&T had rooms dedicated to it that only intelligence contractors were allowed into) and none of these authoritarian powered have ever been rolled back.
Data centers are fun.
Odds, bobs, hammer and tongs! Tick-tock🐊 jokes are never funny, Smee.🤨
Senators should ban the kind of data collection Tik Tok is doing. Until then, it’s just useless politization. If Facebook is allowed to collect data and use it to try swaying elections, that’s more of a threat than just about anything I can think of
TikTok is literally the cringiest thing on the planet. I wish it never existed to begin with.