General What do you think a Jony Ive, anti-skeuomorphic OS will be like? [Merged]

[diazj3]

I'd be happy if everything simply worked as they said it would... it's a shame that most doesn't.

Agreed... although most of the discussions and criticism are always over aesthetics and form, over function.

 

[MMOTotal]

Well, it's more on the OSX side but since they are being run by the same person we can see some cross over here.

I would like to see better multi tasking, think Mission Control in OSX. That is what I want, some mockup designs have are already out there.

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New Homescreen would be nice, instead of it being a center for app launching they could put in Launchpad, again like in OSX and use the homescreen for something else, maybe those widgets.. like in OSX.

I doubt this will happen, maybe not even in iOS 7 but the OS just needs that re branding, a reboot like what Microsoft does with the XBox dashboard.

 

[thewitt]

No way there will be a major overhaul. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[LouieSamman]

Active icons is a feature I can see coming in iOS 7.

New lockscreen too.

But I feel we are going to see a lot of UI change with app icons and the visual look inside the app of the pre-installed.

 

[MMOTotal]

Active icons is a feature I can see coming in iOS 7.

New lockscreen too.

Maybe the weather app can finally change so I don't need to actually go into the app.

Small things like this would be nice.

 

[BSben]

He will find this task difficult. How can you make iOS thinner and lighter?
Anyway, I hope he is not going to make it sterile looking.

 

[LouieSamman]

I hope Ive takes away the glare from most of the icons. It's hideous and takes away the color of the icon. A more matte look to the icons will make it very pleasing to look at.

 

[ReValveiT]

It will be 20% thinner, 50% lighter, 2x faster, "amazing" and "absolutely fantastic".

Then after all the hype died down and you use it, it will actually be "meh...".

 

[Akarin]

• Folders allowed in Folders.
• User can remove default Apple apps. (Newsstand for example)

That. And a faster Music app when using iTunes Match by making a better use of caching.

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I'm not familiar with the work Jony Ive has done in software design. What are typical examples of his work that are not hardware related?

 

[frozzbite]

Att.: Apple

Don't make the same mistake as Microsoft. It's awful.

Don't follow windows phone 8 i agree. But I think the iPad could benefit greatly if it followed Microsoft in making the tablet more "productivity friendly".

*When i say productivity friendly, i mean stuff like typing reports, multiple windows, .docx compatibility, true multi tasking etc...

Wishful thinking perhaps?

 

[Tar Sniffer]

I don't know why you guys hate the Skeuomorphism so much, when it's what gives iOS it's charm and colour. Would you prefer a consistent sterile mono-colour through out your phone?

As for design changes...

• Redesign the folders icon
• Phase out the linen theme
• Speed up some animations. (Eg. Safari tabs)
• Mountain Lion style dock
• Fix the horrible design choices implemented in iOS6. (Eg. Music App, coloured status bar, App Store, phone keypad)

 

[canesalato]

Apple will be back to how it used to be, focusing on how to make things simple and elegant! and not unusable (Maps) and tacky (Calendar on Mac)

Yes, that's what I hope. I was really starting to hate the design of iOS, can't wait for changes

 

[Appleseeds]

man... poor bastard, this Jon Ive: I bet he hasn't realized the land mine he's stepped into. All the cry babies that take iOS too seriously and over analyze every single tiny bit of it. And in the end, there's no way to keep everybody happy. With hardware design there's always an end to any discussion. But with software design, everybody thinks they should have their own idea of how anything should look and work. Plus, the ability to further customize it. A real nightmare.

For what it's worth, I doubt Jon Ive's involvement in iOS will be permanent...

Most intelligent post I've read on here.

 

[rockyroad55]

osx and iOS will be merged into one only operating system maybe?

Oh god no. Windows 8?

 

[FlatlinerG]

Anyone else sick of seeing the word skeuomorphism everywhere?


Jon Ives having additional say in the look and feel of iOS is going to be heaven. As far as skeuomorphism, I could care less.

 

[marcusj0015]

A complete graphical overhaul and hopefully the dumping of stupid slow animations like when you click on folders and the screen "splits" (SO ugly).

Theres a lot of work to be done though. Id like widges and more custom choices as well, but the main thing here is not the amount of new functions but some desperately needed fresh thinking about how it should all come together.

Its about time. 2007 called, they want their software back. Im sure Sir Jony Ive will do amazing things like he has with hardware lately.

I like the screensplit animation, Apple does need to make it faster though, so it looks smoother and takes less time and is less "I'm sitting here and I can't do anything because of slow ass animations" and hopefully they fix the jerkiness.

 

[TheRainKing]

Skeumorphic apps is one of the things that separate apple from other companies, I think apple might suffer if they go in a generic direction like most companies.

 

[DaffyDuck]

You guys are funny. They didn't fire Forstall because of his design direction. They fired him because of his recent performance and attitude, especially regarding maps. As much as many hate skeuomorphic design, it has certainly not detracted from Apple's success and even if Jony Ive hates it, he's not going to completely rebuild what has been working for Apple in a few months. I think some of the more disliked designs will be changed eventually (calendars) but skeuomorphism will still be in many apps for a long time. Notes will still look like a yellow notepad. Garageband will still look like real instruments. Reminders will look like a white sheet of paper, etc. I could be wrong. We'll see.

My guess is that his first order of business will be to address usability complaints with the App store. That's worth real money.

 

[robanga]

It does not have to be all or nothing. Subtle traits combined with other design style is nice. Over the top not so nice.

 

[marcusj0015]

i hope ive takes away the glare from most of the icons. It's hideous and takes away the color of the icon. A more matte look to the icons will make it very pleasing to look at.

this.

 

[Mal]

Notes will still look like a yellow notepad.

I like the "skeuomorphic" designs, but this is one I'm actually hoping will go. Not that it's even really tacky or ugly, but I'd rather have something that lends itself to a more compact view so more information is visible.

jW

 

[jafingi]

iOS 7 really doesn't have to change a lot. Small stuff will certainly make the difference. Things like:

• Remove colored status bar. It's ugly. Keep it all black so it looks like it's "part" of the phone - not the software.
• Live icons (like Windows Phone). Could be pretty useful with the weather app. Other apps, like Facebook, could fade between latest images posted in the newsfeed. Maps could show the actual location if you have GPS enabled.
• Exposé style multitasking (like MultiFlow)
• Why not make the spotlight area capable of having widgets? Swipe left (or press the home button on the first screen) and see the widget area.
• Overall "sleeker" look. Less gloss, more "uuuhmmm".

 

[Yr Blues]

the skeuomorphic design should be layered onto the existing OS so that we can turn them off or change them if we want to

 

[Saladinos]

osx and iOS will be merged into one only operating system maybe?

They already area the same OS. That's Forstalls biggest contribution to Apple.

They share the same underlying frameworks: stuff like the Mach kernel, CoreAnimation, CoreData, etc. if you've got a terminal app or something else without a UI, it's already extremely portable between OSX and iOS.

The difference is at the UI level. iOS has UI components designed for full-screen touch applications, whereas OSX has components designed for windowed applications using a mouse pointer or multi-touch trackpad.

Then there's iCloud, which acts as the glue between the OSes: syncing your personal data and preferences between them.

They can't become any more integrated unless you start packaging them together: that just ties their release cycles together for no technical or business benefit.

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You guys are funny. They didn't fire Forstall because of his design direction. They fired him because of his recent performance and attitude, especially regarding maps. As much as many hate skeuomorphic design, it has certainly not detracted from Apple's success and even if Jony Ive hates it, he's not going to completely rebuild what has been working for Apple in a few months. I think some of the more disliked designs will be changed eventually (calendars) but skeuomorphism will still be in many apps for a long time. Notes will still look like a yellow notepad. Garageband will still look like real instruments. Reminders will look like a white sheet of paper, etc. I could be wrong. We'll see.

My guess is that his first order of business will be to address usability complaints with the App store. That's worth real money.

Design is an important part of the product. If its too awkward to use, Apple has a huge problem.

 

[iHailCarlo]

I am sure whatever Jony has going on, it will be the most polished and best looking. Thats his thing.