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TikTok May Be Breaking App Store Rules by Avoiding Commissions on Tips
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Apple applies its rules equally, without fear or favor.
If there was ever a reason not to allow this, it is TikTok. I say 'sucked in to the EU'. Forget malware. Try TikTok
Soon it will be tic-toc-tic-toc-tic-toc…banned 
Not going to happen. It makes too much money. They'll just comply.Soon it will be tic-toc-tic-toc-tic-toc…banned
Remember the TikTok issue has _nothing_ to do with China and everything to do with its competition (facebook, etc) trying to take them down. Not to mention the government doesn't like that they cant strong arm them into election interference like they can with their competition. It's really despicable. I would rather use TikTok any day over Facebook.
P.S. The only reason TikTok is getting a bad name is because the media is programming that bias into you. The app is curated to what I like, Its short form so I can digest a few things when I have a few minutes to spare, Its high quality as far as design and functionality, It only shows me an Ad in my stream every one in a while and so far I haven't paid them a dime for anything. So China knows I like to watch Jimmy Carr shorts. So what. The app is perfectly fine.
TikTok doesn't actually make money. Despite its popularity, it somehow manages to lose money.
ByteDance posts record profit despite TikTok losses
Booming 2022 helps it overtake China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for first time
ByteDance raked in a record underlying profit last year, overtaking China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for the first time even as losses mounted for its fast-growing TikTok business unit.
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Any forced sale or ban of TikTok would hit ByteDance’s potential earnings. Although it generated about 80 per cent of its revenues in China last year and TikTok was lossmaking, it nonetheless represents an important future profit engine.
A ByteDance investor in the US said a TikTok ban would not gut the company’s financials based on current earnings. “TikTok is not as material a percentage of ByteDance’s total revenue as people assume. But the ban would be a real loss to future potential given its growth rate,” the investor said.
I agree with you though. TikTok will not be sold. China has said so many times.
Apple does not handle TikTok chargebacks in any way or in any monetization aspect. But you knew that.
“Lossmaking”TikTok doesn't actually make money. Despite its popularity, it somehow manages to lose money.
ByteDance posts record profit despite TikTok losses
Booming 2022 helps it overtake China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for first timewww.ft.com
ByteDance raked in a record underlying profit last year, overtaking China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for the first time even as losses mounted for its fast-growing TikTok business unit.
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Any forced sale or ban of TikTok would hit ByteDance’s potential earnings. Although it generated about 80 per cent of its revenues in China last year and TikTok was lossmaking, it nonetheless represents an important future profit engine.
A ByteDance investor in the US said a TikTok ban would not gut the company’s financials based on current earnings. “TikTok is not as material a percentage of ByteDance’s total revenue as people assume. But the ban would be a real loss to future potential given its growth rate,” the investor said.
I agree with you though. TikTok will not be sold. China has said so many times.
Hardly.
Except they don't. There have been a few times that they either bent the rules or looked the other way for big apps.
AFAIK - that's only speculative gossip from people with an anti-Apple agenda. I truly believe Apple treats every developer the same with equal opportunities to build robust businesses alongside Apple technology products and services.
They still have 16B in revenue. A loss isn't necessarily a bad thing. It means you're not paying any taxes for one.TikTok doesn't actually make money. Despite its popularity, it somehow manages to lose money.
ByteDance posts record profit despite TikTok losses
Booming 2022 helps it overtake China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for first time
ByteDance raked in a record underlying profit last year, overtaking China’s long-reigning tech giants Tencent and Alibaba for the first time even as losses mounted for its fast-growing TikTok business unit.
[ . . . ]
Any forced sale or ban of TikTok would hit ByteDance’s potential earnings. Although it generated about 80 per cent of its revenues in China last year and TikTok was lossmaking, it nonetheless represents an important future profit engine.
A ByteDance investor in the US said a TikTok ban would not gut the company’s financials based on current earnings. “TikTok is not as material a percentage of ByteDance’s total revenue as people assume. But the ban would be a real loss to future potential given its growth rate,” the investor said.
I agree with you though. TikTok will not be sold. China has said so many times.
They don't bend on the 30% cut, but they absolutely bend on the application of the App Store guidelines. And it's not "anti-Apple speculation". It's been confirmed in court documents.
Your interpretation of the court documents is interesting.
Except it's not a tip, but currency you can use as a tip if you want. Apple isn't taking a cut of any tips, just charging TikTok for the coins they sell. Iif you consider the purchase price the full value of the tip, then TikTok's cut is illegal since they sell the coin for X but only give a percentage to the urson receiving it,
TikTok agreeed to a contract and is trying to get around it.
While TikTok should be banned, Apple, for all purposes, effectively steals from customers every time it price-gouges them for increasing the RAM of their devices to usable and sustainable levels.
Boo-hoo Apple and Ol' Timmy.
Why would TikTok need to be profitable when its sole purpose is to spy on and manipulate Americans... or so I've been told.
But if people are purchasing things on the web how is that contractually owed? It’s not like TikTok is setting up it’s own payment system in-app.
Apple could have a scale where larger developers pay more than smaller ones. As it is now many of the big name developers don’t pay Apple anything (outside of the annual developer fee).
It's not going to happen anyway, first amendment, bill of attainder, take your pick on why it's unconstitutional to ban TikTok, but it is.