They want to spare customers from "having to" download apps? Try Android then... where the first thing I look to do is delete as many apps as I can!
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Calls New Russian Smartphone Sales Legislation 'Equivalent to Jailbreaking'
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
This is the flaw in Tin’s strategy.
If you go along with the little requests, e.g. make Crimea part of Russia, you embolden them to make bigger and bigger requests. And at some point, you are an enabler of a human rights crisis. Just ask Google.
Cold war geopolitics has the roadmap. The answer is bright lines of what you will and will not do, and never, ever compromise. Any sign of ambiguity or weakness causes escalation.
Cold War Russia lost support from the people because of the food lines and people learning of standard of living—yes, blue jeans and color TVs--of western democracy’s.
It’s OK not to be able to sell your phones in every market. Find your business growth in the free world, like capitalists did for 50 years. The global economy did fine. Execs got very rich. Shareholders enjoyed the greatest stock market of all time. The losers were the regimes who feel behind in standare of living and tech.
If you go along with the little requests, e.g. make Crimea part of Russia, you embolden them to make bigger and bigger requests. And at some point, you are an enabler of a human rights crisis. Just ask Google.
Cold war geopolitics has the roadmap. The answer is bright lines of what you will and will not do, and never, ever compromise. Any sign of ambiguity or weakness causes escalation.
Cold War Russia lost support from the people because of the food lines and people learning of standard of living—yes, blue jeans and color TVs--of western democracy’s.
It’s OK not to be able to sell your phones in every market. Find your business growth in the free world, like capitalists did for 50 years. The global economy did fine. Execs got very rich. Shareholders enjoyed the greatest stock market of all time. The losers were the regimes who feel behind in standare of living and tech.
It’s a giant illogical leap between Apple complying with a country’s laws and people being killed, and of course you provide no rationale for this nonsensical conclusion.
Apple is a public corporation and it makes no sense to not follow their rules as it is all about the money.
What is done in other countries is not my worry. Their rules and their enforcement. You can request rule changes, but pulling out of the market when you don't get them does not help anyone except the competition's bottom line.
What is done in other countries is not my worry. Their rules and their enforcement. You can request rule changes, but pulling out of the market when you don't get them does not help anyone except the competition's bottom line.
because China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia can’t steal or develop their own technology to replace it?
So you will no longer buy or use Apple products, right? You’re selling all your Apple gear, right? If not doesn’t that make you a supreme hypocrite? How could you possible stick with products made by a company you now despise?
She went to a more prestigious university than Trump. She got a much more challenging degree than Trump. She graduated second in her class.
Maybe so, but she is an idiot. 90% of what she says is crap. Green New Deal, laughable. World is going to end in 15 years? Right. This lady is scarier than trump. She needs to go.
Russia isn't (anymore) socialist. Paternalist capitalism and oligarchy. What the US is slowly turning into.
[automerge]1575388600[/automerge]
Google already caved there, not sure what Apple will do here.
I’ve concluded that the right to bear arms is meaningless. If people were going to revolt it would have already happened.
Emmm...10 of millions is nothing for Apple, Tim could cover it from his own pocket if there was such need.
Apple will do and say anything, IF it leads to bigger profits...
In this case- flexing privacy blanket statements in US was bringing more positive PR for them in the US, public was on their side and, hopefully, it will bring more money for them in the US. Apple and publics perception, what is "right" thing to do was the same.
The moment, when they will feel, that these "right" positions interfere with market share, profits or ban, they will forget all about it give into government apps or censorship or whatever...because again- these "right" things are not bringing them profit in this specific situation.
Russia is the biggest country in the world, Apple is not going away from it- they either will agree to governments rules or get some major lobbyist to cancel this law in general.
I guess, Samsung and Microsoft and others also will not want to waste their resources to install some junk on tablets and laptops.
Russia isn’t a socialist country. The USSR was, until it collapsed back in 1991. Where have you been the past 28 years?
No, not wrong. Set yourself a reminder about you thinking Apple is going to just pull their devices from the entire Russian market. The only person who believes this is yourself and few Apple loving extremists on here. They sure showed the Chinese Government that they'll not be forced to do any changes to their hardware/software platform or the App store marketplace; didn't they?
Time for Apple to pull out of Russia.
The cost of a single data security breach and its long term affects and implications on the image of Apple worldwide is not worth the risk of a few iPhone sales in one market.
The cost of a single data security breach and its long term affects and implications on the image of Apple worldwide is not worth the risk of a few iPhone sales in one market.
Socialism is a type of policy. We live in a democratic republic, but we also have many socialist policies. Do you like snow plows? Fire departments? Etc etc... People who complain about socialism are usually ignorant to the fact that they make use of socialistic policies and services all the time.
[automerge]1575390018[/automerge]
Can you quote where she said the "world will end" in 15 years? Irreversible or dramatic changes isn't the same as ending. We're on track to be the hottest decade in recorded data.
Doubtful.
Putin does not care about the people of Russia, so they would suffer with the loss of products from these companies, while Putin and the Oligarchs would be able to get this tech smuggled in for their personal use and enjoyment.
These people don't actually bother to understand what it is they think they're criticizing. The programming is too strong.
The unfortunate reality of today's communication industry is; if you have the slightest reason to be spied upon, you are being observed already. Doesn't matter where you are from.
