I bet my ass they gonna get some nice promotion for using Google , like they do with search engine..there gotta be something about money saving here
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Apple in Talks With Google to Bring Gemini AI Features to iPhone
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Fair argument. Microsoft wants to control everything. In the console market they are drifting away from exclusive hardware for their games and bringing them to Playstation.
I guess I just thought it was too soon to start letting their major competition use products they are investing heavily in. Maybe in the future Microsoft wouldn't mind letting Apple use OpenAI.
Depends how much of a long game MS are playing. You're probably right though but I guess there is a reason why Apple isn't in talks with OpenAI. Who knows?
Imagine having spent $10BN on AI that "just works" instead of on a car project that was way beyond Apple's core competencies. Or maybe not AI, but on making Siri actually functional.
Google does not make money off of search terms. Google needs to get the identifiers so it should know data such as the location, and any other identification stuff. They will anonymize the stuff and group them into demographics. That is currently not possible with ATT. Also, how ill the customers know if the ad has been successful or not? Earlier, Google was able to collect that information and tell them how successful the ad has been. Now ATT makes it difficult for Google, Facebook and others to do that. The only company that could do both is Apple on iOS devices as the ATT rules are not applicable for Apple.
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To cut a long story short, Google can only make money by being the search engine (default or otherwise) because it needs to serve ads to users. It cannot get any data that is useful from Apple because Apple reserves that data for itselves. So, No, Data is not the reason why Google pays Apple for being the default search engine.
Perhaps a decent jump but they sold 12m S23 Ultras last year out of global sales figures of 1.3bn devices. Thats about 1%. The 15 Max made up nearly 2% of sales figures with only a 3-month window. In the first half of 2023 the 14 Max had done 26m in sales alone.
Samsung's top devices are good handsets but they're not in the top-10. Its their budget models that do the business for them. Its too early to tell if AI is a selling point for street consumers but then again it hasn't helped Google in 2 years.
Yuck. Simply based on recent issues with Gemini, I’d rather have openAI on Apple devices if necessary.
I’m not sure why people are so surprised by this
Apple have failed on so much in recent years
Siri
cars
AI
XR headset
iPadOS
iphone design
modems
privacy
arcade
etc etc I could go on.
They just churn out the same stuff every year for the sheep but that won’t cut it now, AI is the buzz and android has it while iOS has another pointless button on the way AGAIN.
Apple have failed on so much in recent years
Siri
cars
AI
XR headset
iPadOS
iphone design
modems
privacy
arcade
etc etc I could go on.
They just churn out the same stuff every year for the sheep but that won’t cut it now, AI is the buzz and android has it while iOS has another pointless button on the way AGAIN.
AI is primarily a buzzword. Apple hasn't missed much.
On the other hand, cue all the Google haters damning this incestuous relationship. 🤣
Gemini is the dumbest AI I have ever used. Ideology is driven so deep into that AI that it would not show me easy accesible data because it said it was bad. Facts were bad. I wouldn’t trust that AI for anything. I thought people were joking but it’s an ideological AI in a way that is dystopian. It’s surreal asking it questions and then telling you the answers are unhealthy. And this was just epidemiological and sociological data that is well known. Futurists never imagined the singularity would result in the most ideologically rigid and handicapped AI taking over. It’s funny and sad.
This is terrible news. Did everyone simply forget the already failed Google Barf I mean Bard? Then the exposed racism of Gemini that was made public only a few weeks ago? I feel like I'm living in another dimension. Am I the only one that knows about this or remembers? Is this what you all want on your phone?
And to think, racism was THE EASY thing to discover. Who knows what other biases are hidden in this completely misnamed "AI".
And to think, racism was THE EASY thing to discover. Who knows what other biases are hidden in this completely misnamed "AI".
No, it describes Google's Gemini perfectly, and who uses Gemini...android users...ergo the typical Android user be like🤪Definitely describes Apple here perfectly.
This is one area where I wish Steve Jobs could have been around to help guide Apple. Siri was just starting out when he passed away and I would have loved to see how he could have guided the product as it matured. His knack for knowing what people wanted and pushing engineers to deliver it would have been helpful instead of the languishing on the 1.0 version of Siri that we have today. Granted he didn't do it in ways that were healthy to his employees but from a visionary aspect I would have loved to see what it could have become under his guidance.
Is that why Apple is running to Google for getting its so-called loser product Gemini on its phone? If you are desperate for a "loser product" what are you? A winner? You have a strange definition for winner.
if they bake in google AI into iOS i’ll just go back to a flip phone - unless they make phones free for having our data scraped and sold they shouldn’t be selling the phones to do it on.
We can guess they may not be as fast at implementing new features as fast as others, more flexible companies. But there is question. What kind of features big chunk of users will really use or at least applaud? What it will be? Not everyone is writing essays. It can give us instant answers as Google already is doing on search page. But we are getting to moment you will be getting answers someone prepared to you and want you get. I already has experience with that. It really takes effort to get unfiltered results. AI models are not intelligent generally. But the way they are programmed.
So lets make test and use emojis as vote. What will you use on iPhone on regular basis the most?
👍 - text generation
❤️ - text editing/manipulation
🤣 - smart search
😲 - image/video generation
☹️ - image/video editing/manipulation
😡 - controlling your devices/home
👎 - creating automation/shortcuts
There is no more reactions but I have not got any other idea for general use anyway. You can choose only one ....
Apple is not running, they are apparently talking to Google to get its loser Gemini on iPhones; the world is not perfect. I tried generative AI, it is very boring to ask algorithms to make me this or make me that. Gemini really is for zombies/android-users.
What do you call an Android user who uses AI to generate a picture? An artist.
What? Are you kidding? If they're going to acquire the talent they can’t do themselves, at least get the good one. But I guess Microsoft already snapped them up.
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I think a lot of the money spent on the car project actually was for AI related stuff. Making an electric car is no big task nowadays, but Apple was aiming for a smart car.
Also, no one knows what Apple invested in AI up until now. From what was rumored a few days ago, they had quite a bit brewing there.
It will be exciting times at WWDC this year.