You have no hope against the government though. We've already established that. So maybe it's time to start living in the here and now, instead of pretending this is centuries ago.
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Apple Permanently Closes North Carolina Store After Multiple Shooting Incidents
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This is for a conceal carry license. For a person to own a rifle or shotgun, it says they need to complete a course, but as far as I can tell, I could walk into a store in Florida, purchase a handgun, and pick it up 3 days later.
What's well regulated or well trained about that?
By my own mistake I forgot private firearms transactions. This means that in Florida a legal firearms owner can sell a gun to someone else who is legally elegible to own a gun within the same state. Without a waiting period. By federal law it is illegal to sell a firearm to someone from another state. It is also illegal to sell a gun to someone the seller might have a reason to believe is inelegible to own a gun.
The government has tanks and missiles... so I don't think I'm gonna protect my myself from government tyranny with a rifle I purchase from Academy Sports.
That one does not need to be well trained to purchase a gun; in fact, quite the opposite.
BL.
Last time I checked, you can’t carry the gun unless it’s in a carrying case, or you have a concealed carry permit, because it’s illegal to open carry in Florida.
That also means people that want to legitimately buy a gun don’t have to be subject to the slow and painful process of bureaucracy.
I'm quoting you here:
"Criminals don’t follow the laws to begin with."
To answer your earlier question about what I'm implying, is that the 2nd amendment explicitly states a "well regulated militia." Since gun ownership in this country isn't anything close to well regulated," it was argued that well regulated actually means well trained. Oops on that one too.
Seriously, just say what we ALL KNOW to be true, and don't ask me to say what that is, because you already know, so you say it.
If the government was to use the military to take over our country, what do you think will happen?The government has tanks and missiles... so I don't think I'm gonna protect my myself from government tyranny with a rifle I purchase from Academy Sports.
If somebody is openly carrying a gun, then you know something is up. It could possibly mean that person wants to kill people. Then people that legally own and carry guns can take him down without waiting for the police. Do you have any better ideas if someone threatens you with a gun?
The only thing gun control is doing is taking away somebody’s legal ability to defend themselves when they are in a dangerous position.
Read this and I again apologize for my error."The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson
I apolgize, I learned that quote was fake.
"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government..." -Alexander Hamilton
This is a real quote and I'll list sources to prove it. https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-04-02-0185
Alexander Hamilton Quote
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The Second Amendment includes the right to bear arms for a milita and the people. The Supreme Court has upheld this view. Whether you like it or not it's the truth
Try shooting a gun at the government and see what happens.
Besides... doesn't the government already have control the country? What's there to take over?
And this whole notion, today, of having guns to protect against the government is kinda lopsided. Back when it was musket-vs-musket I could see what they were going for.
But like I said... the government and military today has waaay bigger guns than the people. And tanks, boats, planes, missiles, bombs, etc.
Anyway... I think this thread has lost the plot. As @Apple Fan 2008 said above... this is settled. Good talk, folks!
I originally jumped into this thread bemoaning the loss of my local Apple Store.
Have a good weekend people!
This is delusional Rambo level bullish*t. Look into what actually happens in an active shooter situation, and someone responds with their guns, and police show up.
You guy keep ignoring that gun control works in plenty of parts of the world. There's good reason to think that it works. Yes, it would take a long time in the US, due to how many guns are actually out there, but there's a good reason to move in this direction, but gun proponents won't allow it, for reasons.
The government would have to control the people’s minds in order to completely control the country. Instead of forcing the population to obey, they have to create a long process to change their minds. They don’t want to kill many innocent civilians which may cause people in the government to revolt, therefore, the people are not completely controlled.Try shooting a gun at the government and see what happens.
Besides... doesn't the government already have control the country? What's there to take over?
And this whole notion, today, of having guns to protect against the government is kinda lopsided. Back when it was musket-vs-musket I could see what they were going for.
But like I said... the government and military today has waaay bigger guns than the people. And tanks, boats, planes, missiles, bombs, etc.
Anyway... I think this thread has lost the plot. As @Apple Fan 2008 said above... this is settled. Good talk, folks!
I originally jumped into this thread bemoaning the loss of my local Apple Store.
Have a good weekend people!
But anyway, it was interesting talking to you, and sorry that you lost your local Apple Store.
Have a good weekend!
OPEN Carry being "something up".... i.e... BAD? NO, you cannot generalize that in the USA.
It depends on the state and locality. In my state, it's generally legal for an adult citizen to carry open or concealed, permit not required.
Yeah.... It is in the West.
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As to mall violence, the apparent cause of the store closure: My "blame" is on the feral youth raised up by a good portion of society AND a society that no longer wants to tell anyone to behave or suffer any consequences for bad behavior. Once it gets that bad, then reaction/demand for self protection will logically follow.
It depends on the state and locality. In my state, it's generally legal for an adult citizen to carry open or concealed, permit not required.
Yeah.... It is in the West.
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As to mall violence, the apparent cause of the store closure: My "blame" is on the feral youth raised up by a good portion of society AND a society that no longer wants to tell anyone to behave or suffer any consequences for bad behavior. Once it gets that bad, then reaction/demand for self protection will logically follow.
I was talking about Florida since it is illegal to openly carry in Florida and it might be an indication that something is wrong. Here in Alaska, you don’t need a permit to conceal carry or open carry.
You still haven’t answered my question. Do you have any idea on what to do if someone is threatening with a gun?
I agree you.
I should have specified more in that post. Sorry to cause some confusion.
You are missing the point; how one carries a gun has nothing to do with being well trained enough to purchase a gun, especially in the Florida example provided.
BL.
Demonstrate that you are mentally stable.
Demonstrate that you understand gun safety.
Demonstrate that you understand how to own/operate the gun for which you will be licensed to use.
Demonstrate that you understand what a gun is to be used for, vs what it is not to be used for.
Be licensed to purchase and use a gun based on the above qualifications.
License subject to crimes committed, etc.
At an absolute minimum, and that's just off the top of my head.