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dannyyankou

macrumors G5
Mar 2, 2012
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28,281
Westchester, NY
Unless you have severe risk factors you should not be worried. Surface transmission has not been proven to be a meaningful vector. Wiping down everything and constant cleaning is likely overkill outside of medical office as long as you dont start licking surfaces.
It’s not about whether you yourself it at risk, it’s about whether you pass it on to high risk groups with high mortality rates, rates that are significantly higher than the flu I might add
 

HarryWild

macrumors 68020
Oct 27, 2012
2,044
711
Apple is still restricting access with stupid temperature test, ask 6 stupid questions and after that asking what you are interested in. I said iPad and waited for a scheduler and got told that an iPad specialist will be available in a 1 hour and 15 minutes. You cannot go and just browse around the store either. There were around 5 customers that I could see and 8 associates on the inside. 4 security personnel outside in black and 2 in gray and one in white for total of 7 security personnel. Everything outside is roped entrance.
 
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statik13

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Jun 6, 2008
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Unless you have severe risk factors you should not be worried. Surface transmission has not been proven to be a meaningful vector. Wiping down everything and constant cleaning is likely overkill outside of medical office as long as you dont start licking surfaces.

Maybe if you limit it to responsible adults who are wearing a mask and using hand sanitizer you have a point.

Reality of the situation is that you are likely to end up with a mix of science deniers and toddlers running amuck in a store full of very shiny and very touchable surfaces during a pandemic.

So yes, you should wash your hands.
 
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jinnj

macrumors 6502a
Dec 9, 2011
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If you can’t lick anything, why bother going to an Apple Store?
Hey I live in the Garden State and this weekend I dropped off my MBP for repair (had an appt). The manager was dealing with some hick women arguing without a mask that she has a right to go into the store and will not be buying online. She wouldn't leave as I went in and out and she was still there. I bet she uses the Apple Store to leave her kids there while she shops! And to put a image to the lady she looks like a reject from Real Housewives of NJ.
 

planteater

Cancelled
Feb 11, 2020
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You need one mask and the fear is natural and healthy. If you fear disease, death and disability you will take action. If fear nothing you will be a case study on Darwin Awards.
If you have a normal, healthy dose of fear, that is good. If you have a paranoia of covid, which is proven to be a mild flu like disease in the vast majority of healthy people, then you are misinformed and highly susceptible to group think syndrome, likely brought on by a mindless profit driven "news" media.

Take precautions, wear your mask, distance, get lots of exercise, sun, and live your life. That fear in you is not healthy.
 

cosmichobo

macrumors 6502a
May 4, 2006
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Dear Karens*,

At the cornerstone of civilisation, basically dating back to the very beginning of when humans began to gather into communities, and do something other than hit each other over the head with a rock, is something called empathy.

empathy
noun
the ability to understand and share the feelings of another

By showing empathy, humans have been able to accomplish great achievements - like say making the iPhone - because we have learned how to get along with one another (without those aforementioned rocks), and put ourselves into other people's shoes, to think of someone other than ourselves.

Whilst you may be perfectly healthy, and not in the age bracket which COVID-19 is massacring globally as we speak, by walking around without a mask on, you could potentially spread the virus to others who are in the affected age groups. You as such would be hastening someone's death - possibly a great many someones.

COVID-19 may only cause mild flu like symptoms - for young healthy people - but there are also plenty of healthy young people who are now dead due to COVID-19. Over 20,000 people under the age of 50 have died from COVID-19 in the USA. Meh - guns kill more in that age bracket, I know.

Whilst the official death toll for COVID-19 is "only" half a million (USA only of course) - if you count people who fell ill with COVID-19, and then died from complications such as pneumonia or asthma - the real death toll is close to 4 million people.

How many people need to die for you to give a damn about this?

* Please Google "Bunnings Karen" to see if this message is intended for you, although I suspect you will know just by reading it.
 
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matrix07

macrumors G3
Jun 24, 2010
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i say FINALLY.

Yeah there are some that will be afraid to go, but there are over 50mil vaccinated and over 100mil that have had it.

I’ve used the pandemic to travel cheaply on my vacation time and never had a day where I didn’t go to the office.

As someone healthy under 45 w/ 99.989% chance of survival, I’ll take that and when I need an Apple product I’ll go to the store.

No reason for me to be afraid, I will catch it and get over it. For those that are, stay in wear your mask if you feel it helps you.
It’s not only about yourself you know? It’s people around you as well that you could infect them with this carefree thinking.
 

ScottNWDW

macrumors 65816
Jul 10, 2008
1,231
315
Orlando, Florida
I wonder how they'll keep everything clean and covid-free. I'm still afraid to go anywhere in the middle of this pandemic.
The store near me won't even let you in the store without an appointment and for everything else it is just express pickup
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ArPe

macrumors 65816
May 31, 2020
1,281
3,325
If you have a normal, healthy dose of fear, that is good. If you have a paranoia of covid, which is proven to be a mild flu like disease in the vast majority of healthy people

Gesh that’s idiotic. I’ve seen one gym owner and one Instagram fitness star infected. One luckily survived after 2 weeks in coma and one dead after boasting at the start of the pandemic that Covid could never hurt him because he would bounce it off his ripped pecs.

The human body is very complex and there are so many kind of underlying conditions and genetic inheritances that can suddenly become triggered by a virus even in individuals who appeared completely healthy.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
34,333
24,081
Gotta be in it to win it
Cases aren't actually down, they just changed the testing sensitivity back in late January.
Cases will be down for real once we're well into May or June, same as last year. Highly irresponsible for Apple to put profits ahead of public health.
Out off curiosity, did you see the last report when the stores were closed? Apple is not putting profits ahead of public health. They are helping their customers get what they need done.

But nice hyperbole.
 
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G5isAlive

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Aug 28, 2003
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The United States is approximately 40 times larger in terms of land mass than the UK. Additionally, we have over 350 million citizens spread out over that area in comparison to the 65 million in the UK. We also have 50 states, the District of Colombia, and several territories that are quite distant from each other.

If I had to choose between distributing vaccines (which is largely a state's issue-I live in Texas, one of the most vaccinated states in the country at the moment) for a large area like the US or your relatively small island(s) I'd take the latter.

Your argument is as specious as it is insulting. But good try.

Look out your window. Do you see cacti or neighbors? maybe you are in the middle of nowhere but the vast majority of Americans live crammed into major urban areas... where covid flourishes in selfish people that put their personal comfort over the good for other citizens.

Take a gander at this population density map of your beloved Texas. Hint, red is not good for your argument, nor is lots of green (low population). How is your power grid doing btw? Bet a lot of people got vaccinated last week.
 

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grantew1

macrumors regular
Oct 12, 2011
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Midwest
No it isn’t and that’s an over simplification of the cause of mortality. I do agree that those who refuse to mask in public are showing his/her ignorance or stubbornnes, however, they are not the cause of the death rates in the US. Look at the baseline heath status of Americans. Speaking as a medical student/health professional in Tennessee, and have a brother who is a pulmonologist/intensivist I am intimately aware of the demographics of COVID patients admitted to the ICU and/or morgue. Americans who are suffering and/or have died from COVID were overwhelmingly older and/or sick at baseline, and particularly the domino effects of obesity, hypertension, and diabetes, which is rampant. If your cardiovascular system is already compromised, your outcomes are significantly worse against a vasculopathy type disease like COVID.
Comments like this I have seen in the last year, are very calous.

It's like, well their health sucked anyways. Almost as if it was ok for them to die because their health sucked(sometimes by no fault of their own)

I'm sure thats not how you meant it but I have heard of over and over and it just seems like that's the case.
 

xalea

macrumors 6502
Jan 12, 2017
362
1,031
I'm wondering how long people will put up with this. At some point even the stupidest will realize...
 
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crawfish963

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2010
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Texas
Your argument is as specious as it is insulting. But good try.

Look out your window. Do you see cacti or neighbors? maybe you are in the middle of nowhere but the vast majority of Americans live crammed into major urban areas... where covid flourishes in selfish people that put their personal comfort over the good for other citizens.

Take a gander at this population density map of your beloved Texas. Hint, red is not good for your argument, nor is lots of green (low population). How is your power grid doing btw? Bet a lot of people got vaccinated last week.
I live in a city of 200,000. I also live in the most heavily vaccinated city in the entire United States. LOL. So yes, a lot of people did get vaccinated.

 

BigMcGuire

Cancelled
Jan 10, 2012
9,832
14,028
The store near me won't even let you in the store without an appointment and for everything else it is just express pickup

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Am I the only one that really likes the new setup? Whenever I went to the Apple Store ... I knew beforehand what I wanted and didn't need to try it out, so I always ended up spending time waiting to be seen because of the masses of people in the Apple Store (pre-covid) that were there just to play with the display models. I really like the new setup. Minimal lines, instant in and out, bam done. My wife and I had to go to an Apple Store 3-4 times over the last week because of service to her MacBook. Never spent so short of a time at an Apple Store ever. Usually we spend 15-20 mins waiting to be seen.
 
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macsound1

macrumors 6502a
May 17, 2007
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SF Bay Area
Apple employees were never unemployed, laid off, furloughed or any other term. They have been paid 100% throughout the pandemic, including when stores were fully closed.
AND getting covid tests mailed to their home regularly so they could self swab and ship back! Apple takes Amazing care of their employees.
 
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macsound1

macrumors 6502a
May 17, 2007
825
854
SF Bay Area
Am I the only one that really likes the new setup? Whenever I went to the Apple Store ... I knew beforehand what I wanted and didn't need to try it out, so I always ended up spending time waiting to be seen because of the masses of people in the Apple Store (pre-covid) that were there just to play with the display models. I really like the new setup. Minimal lines, instant in and out, bam done. My wife and I had to go to an Apple Store 3-4 times over the last week because of service to her MacBook. Never spent so short of a time at an Apple Store ever. Usually we spend 15-20 mins waiting to be seen.
I agree, the lack of checkout was annoying most of the time. But I've also used the Apple store when my Photoshop was acting up but needed to spend time on my design to get it out in an hour. I'd pop over to the apple store, use an iMac for a little bit to get my work done and be on my way. Total lifesaver of a store.
Its also popular among those who can't afford computers or computers powerful enough or with expensive software that people need. Amazing stories of people writing entire novels, publishing travelogues, homeless getting jobs because they can check their email and design a classy resume that's not made in Word 95 from the library PCs.
Apple stores pull their weight for a lot more than just selling stuff.
 
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