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Speaking of serious lack of logic ...
You have no proof of this. You point to a reseller who is offering 1.8GHz single processor G5's for $1799. These are, as has been pointed out, no longer current models, and so, yes, are on "fire-sale" status.
Look, instead, at the current models (1.6GHz SP, 1.8GHz DP, 2.0GHz DP) on that same site. No alarming numbers there at all.
Thus, you are starting with a flawed "fact" and hence reaching unsupported conclusions.
I'm betting that you didn't notice the 1.8GHz G5 didn't say "DP" next to it, right?
Apple has shown, time and again, that they give NO advance notice to resellers of a line change. They do not offer units at lower-than-advertised prices to resellers for an line-change event. They will, often, stop shipping units well in advance of such a change so that resellers have a low inventory when the change occurs, but that's as close as Apple has gotten to signalling a new model/speed bump in their line to resellers in the last several years.
Please realize that you are coming to absurd conclusions. When all you are left with are impossible choices, you can either just accept the least impossible one, or instead re-examine your assumptions and data points to see if, just perhaps, you went off track somewhere.
Several individuals have tried to point out the fundamental first-fact flaw in your argument, and you rewarded them with this blustery reply. Please reconsider.
Nice straw man.
When he said your argument has no basis he was speaking of the fact that your assertion regarding cut-rate 1.8GHz PowerMacs from resellers was incorrect. Since that is the fact upon which your entire argument rests, your argument has no basis.
You read the web site wrong, or didn't realise that Apple's machines have two procs in them these days, not one.
This much has been stated at least twice here.
Note, of course, that this doesn't mean there won't be new Macs tomorrow/today (or the next day, or the next...). It just means that your "proof" is not valid, and that there is just as much of a chance of new Macs tomorrow as there always was.
Originally posted by CalfCanuck
You're exactly right that this IS NOT A CURRENT MODEL, but that only proves my point.
WOW. I sure as hell wouldn't want to debug the code hammered out by this group, given the serious lack of logic in some of these responses.
Speaking of serious lack of logic ...
Let's take this a little slower.
The question in this thread is will the Apple Store update on Jan. 20, and relatedly, when will Apple update it's current G5 models - 1.6, D1.8, D2.0.
Some have expressed doubt that it will happen this month. I (and others) have cited the fact that starting tomorrow Apple begins dumping NEW (not reconditioned) units models, in configurations not currently available, THAT SPEC OUT BETTER THAN WHAT IS ON THEIR WEB SITE AS OF JAN.19.
You have no proof of this. You point to a reseller who is offering 1.8GHz single processor G5's for $1799. These are, as has been pointed out, no longer current models, and so, yes, are on "fire-sale" status.
Look, instead, at the current models (1.6GHz SP, 1.8GHz DP, 2.0GHz DP) on that same site. No alarming numbers there at all.
Thus, you are starting with a flawed "fact" and hence reaching unsupported conclusions.
I'm betting that you didn't notice the 1.8GHz G5 didn't say "DP" next to it, right?
So, since Apple does not allow retailers to discount their current line there are ONLY 2 possibilities.
1. Apple will release new G5's on Jan. 20, and will begin moving their over-stocked and discontinued CPUs on the same date through the discount mail-order / web site retailers.
Apple has shown, time and again, that they give NO advance notice to resellers of a line change. They do not offer units at lower-than-advertised prices to resellers for an line-change event. They will, often, stop shipping units well in advance of such a change so that resellers have a low inventory when the change occurs, but that's as close as Apple has gotten to signalling a new model/speed bump in their line to resellers in the last several years.
Please realize that you are coming to absurd conclusions. When all you are left with are impossible choices, you can either just accept the least impossible one, or instead re-examine your assumptions and data points to see if, just perhaps, you went off track somewhere.
Several individuals have tried to point out the fundamental first-fact flaw in your argument, and you rewarded them with this blustery reply. Please reconsider.
2. Apple decided to dump NEW, full warranty machines to these discounters on Jan. 20 that have more RAM, TWICE the HD space, and a FASTER PROCESSOR than their own current models without upgrading their own product line. They have decided on this new strategy, which has never happened before in the history of Apple, solely for the purpose of cannibalizing their own web site sales.
So if my "whole argument has no basis", I take it you are a proponent of proposition #2?
Nice straw man.
When he said your argument has no basis he was speaking of the fact that your assertion regarding cut-rate 1.8GHz PowerMacs from resellers was incorrect. Since that is the fact upon which your entire argument rests, your argument has no basis.
You read the web site wrong, or didn't realise that Apple's machines have two procs in them these days, not one.
This much has been stated at least twice here.
Note, of course, that this doesn't mean there won't be new Macs tomorrow/today (or the next day, or the next...). It just means that your "proof" is not valid, and that there is just as much of a chance of new Macs tomorrow as there always was.