It does. It's proven to reduce severity of symptoms. Less coughing, less sneezing = less spread.
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It does. It's proven to reduce severity of symptoms. Less coughing, less sneezing = less spread.
This is a very strange logic.
Vaccinating is not an individual but rather a collective endeavour. The end goal is to end this pandemic and therefore we need to prevent the virus from spreading by social distancing and working towards herd immunity by vaccinating.
If unvaccinated people are moving around, travelling, participating in mass events, etc they are keeping this pandemic around. They are not only putting themselves at risk (like you say, who cares!), but also society, because as long as this pandemic that costs trillions of dollars is not under control, we can’t get back to normal.
You also gloss over the fact that vaccines are not 100% effective so you can still get sick because of an unvaccinated person and die or suffer long term consequences. And some demographics may not get vaccinated for good reasons like a pregnancy or underlying pathology. Those people are also still at risk.
There is a chance also the vaccine does harm and even kills you. Don't fix something which works (your body). There is also a chance for a long term mutations. Who knows what kind of zombie it will turn all those vaccinated in the future. Never the less to take the vaccine now you have to be a little bit of zombie even though with a little remnant free will.
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If our body "works", we wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of deaths with hospitals completely stressed out.
Who's body does not work let him get vaccinated (only if he wants) it is a free world with a free will (yet).
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You don't know which body doesn't work. Healthy 20 year olds died from COVID.
It sure is when those bodies spread the deadly disease to innocent beings and unnecessarily clog our health care system.
I just said, people that don't get vaccinated spreads the virus more (because their symptoms are more severe) and increases chances of the virus mutating to the point where vaccines won't work.
Vaccines reduce the severity of symptoms. It's a proven fact.
"the key here is that one cannot be forced or make it a requirement to entry"
Good luck with that.. you would be sent immediately home
There is also this:
‘No jab, no job’ is just the start of the lockdown exit strategy, Pimlico Plumbers boss says
Pimlico Plumbers boss Charlie Mullins explains why he sees vaccines as key to recovery
inews.co.uk
Broad and inaccurate statement. Go say that the multitude of autistic kids I know, which became autistic after taking the "good vaccines".
COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know
Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.
"Both Pfizer and Moderna report that their vaccines show approximately 95% efficacy at preventing both mild and severe symptoms of COVID-19. "
If you're going to ignore the data then I'm done talking to you. Bye. ?
Ooh you probably also want me to believe 100% whatever the Biden administration tells me right?COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know
Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.www.hopkinsmedicine.org
"Both Pfizer and Moderna report that their vaccines show approximately 95% efficacy at preventing both mild and severe symptoms of COVID-19. "
If you're going to ignore the data then I'm done talking to you. Bye. ?
"the key here is that one cannot be forced or make it a requirement to entry"
Good luck with that.. you would be sent immediately home
There is also this:
‘No jab, no job’ is just the start of the lockdown exit strategy, Pimlico Plumbers boss says
Pimlico Plumbers boss Charlie Mullins explains why he sees vaccines as key to recovery
Yet within the same article you linked there is this embedded article. An employer forcing or voluntary encouraging by paying for an employee or potential employee is discrimination and goes against Human Rights. I would be more concerned by litigation as a business owner making it a requirement to be entitled as part of employment.
https://inews.co.uk/news/business/c...-to-take-covid-19-vaccine-human-rights-844289
Except what is being defined as mild and severe symptoms as it is subjective on a person by person basis.COVID-19 Vaccine: What You Need to Know
Now that COVID-19 vaccines are authorized, here are the facts you need now.
"Both Pfizer and Moderna report that their vaccines show approximately 95% efficacy at preventing both mild and severe symptoms of COVID-19. "
If you're going to ignore the data then I'm done talking to you. Bye. ?
For example I may have experienced cold/flu symptoms every season, sometimes more than once. A little rest, being hydrated and a day or so later I am partial way to recovery. Consider the flip side if I had never or rarely experienced a cold/flu and getting one after some years I feel horrible for days, and not knowing how to properly care for to me that would be severe as I never or rarely experience a cold/flu frequently.
It’s all in the wording, plus age, diet, lifestyle and other variables.
What an absolute load of horse dung you are talking! How many hospitals have had to reroute A&E admissions due to being over run by Wuhan Flu/SARS-CoV-2 cases? In the UK, the Nightingale Hospitals were so grossly under-utilised, they were bloody mothballed. In fairness, I’ve also read there were staffing issues but hospitals in the UK coped. We were asked nearly a year ago for 3 weeks to flatten the curve! Here we are a year later...
May I ask what do you do at the moment? Do you go outside now, or have you stayed in your bedroom/house the whole time for fear of spreading Wuhan Flu/SARS-CoV-2, or whatever else? If you are going out now, surely you’re risking stressing the hospital too? Honestly, your arguments sound like you’re clutching at straws...
Lastly, as viruses mutate, they generally become less deadly but more infectious, so for you to come out with a statement like, “more spread means a higher chance of mutation which WOULD start a new pandemic”, sounds rather uninformed. Things should improve from here, as the virus mutates and becomes less deadly.
Although I think the number is a bit too high, here is a good article about it:
Up to 20 per cent of coronavirus patients may develop long COVID
Immunologist Professor Danny Altmann told Times Radio that long COVID clinics should be opened in the UK.www.sciencefocus.com
I guess it will take months and even years to get a better picture of these long-term consequences. There are several of young and fit athletes who still have lung problems and still can exercise. The singer of the Band TOOL has it too and afaik is still suffering:
Tool’s Maynard James Keenan Reveals He Contracted COVID-19 a Second Time
Tool frontman Maynard James Keenan has revealed that he contracted COVID-19 a second time.variety.com
That article does not mention age anywhere as far as I can see. Please point me to it... There’s no stats that I know of that show what you asserted in your previous post. Finally, the account of one young musician, who was so bad he checked himself OUT of the hospital - because there were no ventilators available? - does not backup the point you made in your previous post. I mean, did I read that right??? What the feck?
Where is the data you speak of?
Again, point me to the data which shows the number of healthy 20 year olds who died from SARS-CoV-2 please.
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It's not strange.
You're under the assumption that getting vaccinated stops you from spreading the virus. All current science says that is not the case, we must assume you can still get and spread it even after vaccination.
So unvaccinated people traveling literally pose no more risk to other people than vaccinated people do, if you can still and transmit after the vaccine.
Also, they're not 100% effective, but your odds of dying are already in the 99.9X%+ range BEFORE the vaccine up until you reach some very old ages. If your argument is really that even after vaccination it's STILL not safe, then we're all doomed and we will never live normally again. The odds of you dying in a car crash are greater than dying of COVID after you're vaccinated.
Your case only holds up if vaccination helps more than just the individual, which at this point, does not appear to be the case.
Here is just one example
Covid-Linked Syndrome in Children Is Growing, and Cases Are More Severe (Published 2021)
The condition, which usually emerges several weeks after infection, is still rare, but can be dangerous. “A higher percentage of them are really critically ill,” one doctor said.
Look… we can all go back and forth on this.. Fact of the matter, Apple is doing the right thing here. Also, countries can and likely WILL require proof of vaccine. It is also quite possible that large venues will as well. Don’t like it? Stay home and you certainly will not enjoy foreign travel. Their country, their rules. There is no “overriding” human rights that allow you to enter a country without following their rules.
Mandatory tests are in place, vaccines will be next and Apple is betting on it.
Mandatory tests are in place, vaccines will be next and Apple is betting on it.
Except the logic being used is erroneous. But hey live in your virtual world and visit places via GoogleMaps or AppleMaps with your soon to be released VR/AR AppleGoggles.
Not me… I travel to Europe no less than 6 times per year… living my life. PCR tests for now, vaccine cert when available… freedom!
Here is just one example
Covid-Linked Syndrome in Children Is Growing, and Cases Are More Severe (Published 2021)
The condition, which usually emerges several weeks after infection, is still rare, but can be dangerous. “A higher percentage of them are really critically ill,” one doctor said.www.nytimes.com
As awful and as gut wrenching as that article is, it relates to MIS-C. The CDC say they do not yet know what causes MIS-C. However, they state that many children with MIS-C had the virus that causes COVID-19, or had been around someone with COVID-19.
It doesn’t say ALL children had it FFS! Dear me
Welcome to your Fascist Utopia in that case then. Men fought and died in WWII to protect democracy and our freedoms. I wonder what they’d have to say about this... Freedom??? Pathetic.
And what exactly is the lesson you’re trying to teach your kids? Pathetic.