The Finewoven cases remind me of those “cheap” Maseratis on eBay where the fabric on the doors fails to stay adhered to the door and comes up in areas so there’s bubbling in the fabric. Looks so terrible. I always go to native Apple stuff but I’ll have a third party case for the 16 Pro if they have the audacity to keep these around.
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Apple Says 'Goodbye Leather' in New iPhone Ad Following Controversial Switch to 'FineWoven' Material
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At some time in the future, probably not too far away, ESG/profit overlap will swing heavily in favour of ESG. There will be no point making xyz if you're fined into oblivion on the profit.
Perhaps Apple has gone too far with ‘being green’. Leather is a by product of animals that are consumed by humans. Using the skins avoids them rotting in Landfills
Time to bring back leather and keep customers happy…….Fine Woven is a disgrace to the Apple Customer
Sometimes not every idea is worth following!!!
Apples failure to comment shows that they know they screwed up hopefully they rectify it with the iPhone 16
Time to bring back leather and keep customers happy…….Fine Woven is a disgrace to the Apple Customer
Sometimes not every idea is worth following!!!
Apples failure to comment shows that they know they screwed up hopefully they rectify it with the iPhone 16
I wouldn't be so sure about that going forward. 2030 just called from the future. The proles want their omnivorous diets back. Turns out crickets suck.
Yup, comedy is harder than it looks …
The problem Apple was trying to address the FineWoven is the environmental impact of the leather tanning process, which is pretty gruesome.
[Environmental impact of tanning industry] - PubMed
Airborne hydrogen sulphide was monitored continuously for 91 hours in the residential area of the Chiampo Valley in northern Italy, where about 150 tanneries are located; 74 air samples were taken to detect the environmental concentrations of solvents. Hydrogen sulphide concentrations obtained...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This study looked at the contaminants released into the air over a region of Italy. There is also the problem of contaminants released into the water supply.
I think Apple should be supported for its attempts to reduce their use of products that increase pollution (whatever you think their motivations are), but I also think this FineWoven stuff is misguided.
There is clearly a problem with the durability of the FineWoven cases, and human beings are an astonishingly shallow species that would bury the planet under a cloud of contaminants, rather than walk around with a scruffy phone case.
So they’re not really solving the problem; they’re just moving it somewhere else by encouraging customers to seek leather cases from other manufacturers.
Chunks of my Silicone case for the iPhone 15 Pro came off, after 3 months. And I work remotely and don't even keep it in my jeans that often.
Then I accidentally dropped the iPhone and scratched the aluminium surface on a place where the Silicone case had broken.
Apple. Is the planet better off when I have to buy a new Silicone case after 3 months?
Further, when researching the FineWoven case, they received pretty bad reviews on durability, not to mention that they are also ugly.
The virtue signalling and simultaneous greed under Tim Cook has been slowly deteriorating the Apple brand over the years, even though the process has been so slow that I think Apple are not cognizant of it.
Then I accidentally dropped the iPhone and scratched the aluminium surface on a place where the Silicone case had broken.
Apple. Is the planet better off when I have to buy a new Silicone case after 3 months?
Further, when researching the FineWoven case, they received pretty bad reviews on durability, not to mention that they are also ugly.
The virtue signalling and simultaneous greed under Tim Cook has been slowly deteriorating the Apple brand over the years, even though the process has been so slow that I think Apple are not cognizant of it.
Bring back the leather. It is not like there is a shortage of cow hides in the world. i returned my fine woven case and watch bands the day they arrived. Junk that would wear very badly. I have a friend who still has his on his iPhone and it is NASTY dirty. Gross!
I’d argue silicone is worse for the environment. Imagine silicone cases in a landfill for hundreds of years.
I’ve been using a finewoven for 5 months. I quite like it and it’s held up well!
I’ve been using a finewoven for 5 months. I quite like it and it’s held up well!
Never liked leather anyway. People crying like if Apple leather cases were actually good (they were not). In less than 2 years leather cases started to fall apart and loose color, same as FineWoven.
Oh and btw. I stopped buying Apple official cases since my old 6s, both silicone and leather. Right now I am using my SE3 with cheap chinese copy of Apple silicone case. 1 year already and it still intact and looks good, apart from that the fake Apple logo disappeared🤣
Before my 11 Pro died I used UAG Civilian case. The phone is dead, the case isn’t and I still have it! Because it was made according to MIL STD 810G 516.6. It can literally withstand shrapnel hit and explosions near. The downside is bulkiness of the case, a reason I didn’t buy it for SE3
Oh and btw. I stopped buying Apple official cases since my old 6s, both silicone and leather. Right now I am using my SE3 with cheap chinese copy of Apple silicone case. 1 year already and it still intact and looks good, apart from that the fake Apple logo disappeared🤣
Before my 11 Pro died I used UAG Civilian case. The phone is dead, the case isn’t and I still have it! Because it was made according to MIL STD 810G 516.6. It can literally withstand shrapnel hit and explosions near. The downside is bulkiness of the case, a reason I didn’t buy it for SE3
I’m not too worried about the iPhone leather honestly, I used one once and it was a bit too thick on an already unwieldy phone.
But leather going away from the Apple Watch seems a real bummer. A product worn so closely to the skin, tactile feel, comfort, flexibility and quality are much more important. I’m not sure there is a suitable alternative for some watch bands.
But leather going away from the Apple Watch seems a real bummer. A product worn so closely to the skin, tactile feel, comfort, flexibility and quality are much more important. I’m not sure there is a suitable alternative for some watch bands.
I like the fine woven case and dont care if it looks or gets worn as long as it does it job - which to me is to protect the phone from damage.The problem Apple was trying to address the FineWoven is the environmental impact of the leather tanning process, which is pretty gruesome.
[Environmental impact of tanning industry] - PubMed
Airborne hydrogen sulphide was monitored continuously for 91 hours in the residential area of the Chiampo Valley in northern Italy, where about 150 tanneries are located; 74 air samples were taken to detect the environmental concentrations of solvents. Hydrogen sulphide concentrations obtained...
This study looked at the contaminants released into the air over a region of Italy. There is also the problem of contaminants released into the water supply.
I think Apple should be supported for its attempts to reduce their use of products that increase pollution (whatever you think their motivations are), but I also think this FineWoven stuff is misguided.
There is clearly a problem with the durability of the FineWoven cases, and human beings are an astonishingly shallow species that would bury the planet under a cloud of contaminants, rather than walk around with a scruffy phone case.
So they’re not really solving the problem; they’re just moving it somewhere else by encouraging customers to seek leather cases from other manufacturers.
FW is not an issue per se. I bought it this year, I won't next year but it's a cheap product that should be priced accordingly, not at the same price the leather cases were priced at.
They talk about sustainability, but do you know what would it be even more sustainable? Not purposely change the design every damn year to force you to buy another case!
They talk about sustainability, but do you know what would it be even more sustainable? Not purposely change the design every damn year to force you to buy another case!
Can’t have it all ways but MR posters do. Can’t criticize apple for forcing a case change while at the same time criticizing them for lack of innovation even though the change it up.
I get that but for iPhone 16 there is no need to move the buttons 0.05mm up just to force you to change the case like they did with iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s.
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Can't we grow authentic leather in the lab the way we now grow authentic meat? Once we realize we can have the real-deal sustainably and without having to kill anything, the calculus should change, and having to settle for inferior materials should go away.
never seen so many people up on arms about a phone case option.
#teamnocase
#teamnocase
I have not been able to find data supporting that so if you have it I would welcome any peer reviewed sources. Please share.
My comment wasn’t about cruelty. My comment was that you will not get meat to stop being produced so leather just becomes a wasted byproduct instead of a used one. I would rather use it than waste it.
My comment wasn’t about cruelty. My comment was that you will not get meat to stop being produced so leather just becomes a wasted byproduct instead of a used one. I would rather use it than waste it.
