I'm pretty worried about this. I would've happily paid the extra $1000, and I'm going to be pissed if that upgrade is introduced so quickly.if they offer a mini-led option with no promotion for $1,000 more in june i'll "cream myself"
I'm pretty worried about this. I would've happily paid the extra $1000, and I'm going to be pissed if that upgrade is introduced so quickly.if they offer a mini-led option with no promotion for $1,000 more in june i'll "cream myself"
same here, for that reason I'll hold the purchase and just buy the mac studio, monitor next, maybe I'll buy a $549 LG or Dell.I'm pretty worried about this. I would've happily paid the extra $1000, and I'm going to be pissed if that upgrade is introduced so quickly.
Good call. I purposefully timed my order from Apple to come late May so that I'll be in my return period when WWDC happens... but a big part of me is so tempted to just let Best Buy ship me one next week. Then I'd force myself to save some $$$, but also might not be as completely happy and satisfied with the product as I would be with a mini-LED version.same here, for that reason I'll hold the purchase and just buy the mac studio, monitor next, maybe I'll buy a $549 LG or Dell.
Here is my armchair hypothesis as to why there are so many "concessions" with this display:
In all, Apple will never admit it publicly, but I strongly believe that this display was thought of at the last minute, as a way to appease Apple enthusiasts and somehow dwindle the stockpiled supply of those 5K iMac displays that are now going to just go to waste because the 27-inch iMac is now discontinued. They gotta sell these displays somehow and Tim Apple, being the numbers guy that he is, must have thought that letting LG sell these display panels through the Ultrafine product wouldn't get rid of these panels quick enough. Apple then quickly thought of creating a new display, a 1st party display, and came up with this at the last minute. Apple having seen the numbers
- the redesigned 24-inch iMac was worked on before the Studio Display, hence why it seems like a superior product, with every detail being thought of meticulously.
- the Studio Display seems to have been thought of at that last minute, hence the use of the 5K 27-inch panel instead of using a Mini-LED panel like in the redesigned MacBook Pros
- The webcam image processing is **** - again, this display was being worked on at the last minute. Hence, Apple was forced to turn to software updates to try and rectify the problem after the fact.
Another reason to back up this theory is that now there are rumors saying that Apple will release a "Studio Display Pro" monitor, a 32-inch one that is superior to the Studio Display. Why would Apple want to release another Display so soon after the Studio Display? Obviously, Apple knows that the Studio Display is using old tech, and in order to supersede it, they quickly put together the Studio Display and spent their engineering resources on this new "Studio Display Pro" monitor instead.
As such, I believe that this Studio Display Pro will be the superior monitor: Mini-LED tech, HDR, ProMotion, and the removable/iMac-like magnetic power connector.
Let's see how well this hypothesis ages...
i'm still not fully decided, but i just sold my ultrafine 5k and i don't totally wanna go back to the same panel in a nicer housing. a youtube vid of the pro xdr and the studio display side by side with a black image on the screens definitely swayed me towards mini-led, but even if i don't get it there will surely be a glut of studio displays hitting ebay the day the studio display pro is released so really i can't lose...I'm pretty worried about this. I would've happily paid the extra $1000, and I'm going to be pissed if that upgrade is introduced so quickly.
Good call. I purposefully timed my order from Apple to come late May so that I'll be in my return period when WWDC happens... but a big part of me is so tempted to just let Best Buy ship me one next week. Then I'd force myself to save some $$$, but also might not be as completely happy and satisfied with the product as I would be with a mini-LED version.
I'm thinking that the XDR version will be priced out of the stratosphere of the current model - that's the only way it makes sense to have a launch in such close proximity to the original, if there's very little overlap in the intended market and price range. I'm thinking it's going to be $4k+. BUT then again I don't know how they can justify a $2400 mini-LED premium when the iPad Pro / MacBook Pro each got it with a measly $100-$300 bump. Ugh, I don't know.
the power cable is removable
The power cable is removable.
I hope you're both right, but that really doesn't seem to be the case.
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Here is my armchair hypothesis as to why there are so many "concessions" with this display:
In all, Apple will never admit it publicly, but I strongly believe that this display was thought of at the last minute, as a way to appease Apple enthusiasts and somehow dwindle the stockpiled supply of those 5K iMac displays that are now going to just go to waste because the 27-inch iMac is now discontinued. They gotta sell these displays somehow and Tim Apple, being the numbers guy that he is, must have thought that letting LG sell these display panels through the Ultrafine product wouldn't get rid of these panels quick enough. Apple then quickly thought of creating a new display, a 1st party display, and came up with this at the last minute. Apple having seen the numbers
- the redesigned 24-inch iMac was worked on before the Studio Display, hence why it seems like a superior product, with every detail being thought of meticulously.
- the Studio Display seems to have been thought of at that last minute, hence the use of the 5K 27-inch panel instead of using a Mini-LED panel like in the redesigned MacBook Pros
- The webcam image processing is **** - again, this display was being worked on at the last minute. Hence, Apple was forced to turn to software updates to try and rectify the problem after the fact.
Another reason to back up this theory is that now there are rumors saying that Apple will release a "Studio Display Pro" monitor, a 32-inch one that is superior to the Studio Display. Why would Apple want to release another Display so soon after the Studio Display? Obviously, Apple knows that the Studio Display is using old tech, and in order to supersede it, they quickly put together the Studio Display and spent their engineering resources on this new "Studio Display Pro" monitor instead.
As such, I believe that this Studio Display Pro will be the superior monitor: Mini-LED tech, HDR, ProMotion, and the removable/iMac-like magnetic power connector.
Let's see how well this hypothesis ages...
I hope you're both right, but that really doesn't seem to be the case.
Maybe they just forgot to put the glue on Nilay's plug. /sRarely am I this glad to be proven wrong. Thanks for posting that!
An undetachable power cable would have been truly mindnumbing!
Maybe they just forgot to put the glue on Nilay's plug. /s
I'm really happy about it, too. I do wonder why everyone else seems to think it's not detachable.
Where did you hear that the stands could be swapped?So the power cord is removable... You can get the stands swapped at Apple Stores...
Have ordered one for pickup today, will see how I get on with the normal stand as I quite like the minimalist look and want to see how that goes compared to my usual Vesa mount.
So the power cord is removable... You can get the stands swapped at Apple Stores...
Have ordered one for pickup today, will see how I get on with the normal stand as I quite like the minimalist look and want to see how that goes compared to my usual Vesa mount.
Its been mentioned in 2 or 3 reviews/previews over the last few days. No mention of how it works/costs yet.Where did you hear that the stands could be swapped?
I'll ask, but I doubt the sales people will know and will probably need an appointment to talk to the Genius techs. Given its day one and there only seems to be the standard one available, I'd be surprised if anyone knows yet! I bet one of the tech journalists finds out pretty quickly.Do ask them at the store if swapping out the stand will just cost you the price of the new stand, or if you have to pay an additional fee for the actual swapping procedure!
Thanks for posting this! Great review. Will keep my orderThis is the best review I've read today by far:
I'll ask, but I doubt the sales people will know and will probably need an appointment to talk to the Genius techs. Given its day one and there only seems to be the standard one available, I'd be surprised if anyone knows yet! I bet one of the tech journalists finds out pretty quickly.
Just started using my new Apple Studio display – bought from the local Apple Store this morning with no trouble.
Pro tip (or tip for idiots): the power cord is in a package attached to the back of the screen. It tooks me *ages* to find it. Nearly destroyed the packaging hunting for the damn thing, while the display was sat happily on my desk – back to the wall, cord hidden.
I had a Dell Ultrasharp @ 1440p before, so this is a nice step up. The display is basically an iMac display and looks identical to me. Perhaps stuff like 120MHz / HDR would be nice but don’t really bother me for my use.
Sound is very good, but not truly excellent.
Webcam is hilariously bad as others have noted. But – it does seem to be a software issue. When there’s lots of movement, or e.g. if you switch portrait mode on and off quickly, the picture pixellates badly – it’s as though the connection between camera and computer is really low bandwidth, rather than anything wrong with the camera itself. So, fixable I hope, but doesn’t bother me that much as I don’t have to use it very often.
Very grateful that Centre Stage can be turned off – why would I want a camera panning round to show the mess either side of me? ?
Main complaint, as I’m fairly tall, is that it’s not high enough. I went for the basic tilt stand. The better stand with the height adjustment would have been perfect, but I really can’t justify the extra cost for that, I’d rather just stick a book under the thing.
So, overall good, but doesn’t quite justify the price tag. If the fully adjustable stand had been sold on all models, for the price of the base model, that would have been a fair deal in my opinion.
And hopefully the camera will be fixed soon.