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Apple to Reportedly Stop Production of 13-Inch Non-Retina MacBook Pro Later This Year
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One PC manufacturer skimped on the solder in an effort to save money / increase profits to the point that soldered connections were breaking during shipping.
It's not deferred cost, but lower cost. When you buy cheap on ebay and sell high on craigslist, you can be lucky and double your RAM for free. Anyway, it's much cheaper than the $100 every upgrade costs at Apple. Soldered RAM is a price increase and if it dies you can throw away the whole logic board. So you better have AppleCare, which is another price increase on top of it.
my 2011 MBP had the hard drive die and i spent $130 for a 1TB fusion drive with like 32MB of flash
huge difference, but until the SSD prices come down i'm not paying the premium unless i have lots of spare cash and its a treat
why can't apple offer this on their laptops?
and the fact that nothing is replaceable by the user and i have to spend another $300 just for a warranty is way too much for a laptop that's used less than my ipads and phones
Storage, who cares about internal storage? For 100$ you have your 2TB external WD for all your porn. 250GB is sufficient storge nowdays for 99% of the users. I prefer cheaper stock MBP, than paying for extra storage I can get elsewhere much cheaper if I need it. With all availabe cloud storage services and cheap external memeries spending resource on increasing you internal SSD which you may or may not need, is complete waste of money, especially considering that its still too expensive.
More stock ram memory, cooler chasies, higer clock CPU and better GPU and display is what metters.
These things tend to go in cycles in terms of the number out front but ram is always increasing. Soon the standard will be 8gb across the board as is the case with a large number of similarly priced pc notebooks and so long as we have computers in the current form will in all likelihood go on increasing. Which makes the non-replaceable ram 4gb machines problematical because if all you need is extra ram then you need a whole new computer.
I suppose I understand the gripes people have about being unable to swap out RAM, especially given Apple's continued reluctance to lower the price of BTO RAM upgrades which are ridiculous. The optical drive is completely useless though in 2014 and beyond as far as most are concerned.
I wanted to argue that these machines hold their value so well that if you grow out of the RAM you chose, you can easily upgrade to a newer machine without taking much of a hit. However, as minimum RAM standards go up, that extra $200-$400 you gave Apple during the BTO stage will never be recovered once that RAM total becomes the new baseline. That does stink.
I wanted to argue that these machines hold their value so well that if you grow out of the RAM you chose, you can easily upgrade to a newer machine without taking much of a hit. However, as minimum RAM standards go up, that extra $200-$400 you gave Apple during the BTO stage will never be recovered once that RAM total becomes the new baseline. That does stink.
Goodbye optical drive
I don't consider my desire for a built in optical drive to be an old fogy thing. My two daughters, both in their 20's, both bought non-retina MBs this past year specifically because they have built in optical drives. I'm quite irritated that I had to go buy an external optical drive for my new iMac. Why? So it can be thinner?
Apple made the correct call when they got rid of floppy drives in the 90's. They got it wrong this time. Or at least it was wrong to remove the option. My daughters are happy they have computers with built in drives. I'm unhappy I don't.
I don't consider my desire for a built in optical drive to be an old fogy thing. My two daughters, both in their 20's, both bought non-retina MBs this past year specifically because they have built in optical drives. I'm quite irritated that I had to go buy an external optical drive for my new iMac. Why? So it can be thinner?
Apple made the correct call when they got rid of floppy drives in the 90's. They got it wrong this time. Or at least it was wrong to remove the option. My daughters are happy they have computers with built in drives. I'm unhappy I don't.
You are damn wrong, my friend.. you and your daughters are minority here, most of us don`t use CDs and DVDs anymore, apple is simply doing what they were doing all the time, get rid of old technology just in time...
Can get an external drive not really a big deal. The less moving parts inside of my machine the better.
This would be great as long as they lower the price of the 13" retina to match the old one. It could go either way with Apple, though.
I used to feel quite strongly about the removal of the drive too, especially when removing it was solely because of Apple's agenda of smaller, thinner, lighter and download it all from us. Despite the fact that smaller to me meant compromise and downloading was less covenient and cost me more. Hardly fitting of Apple's user ethos. Now I just put up with it because 1: they aint gonna change (and I prefer the osx experience overall) and 2: there will be no shortage of voices telling you that discs are out and to just buy an external drive. Good on you for speaking up in support of it though. BTW since firing my old white mb up the optical drive in it is getting more use than it ever had before I did the upgrade.
Can you please buy me a maxed-out $3,757 MBP 15" for pick up at the Apple store near by.
You are absolutely right, I don't know what the fuzz is about.
Thanks!!!
Very much Apple.
13" MacBook Pro with Retina Display & 256 GB SSD
Late 2012 = $1,999
Early 2013 = $1,699
Late 2013 = $1,499
Soon to be $1,299.
Actually, DVD's still sell in the tens of millions every year in the US alone. Hundreds of millions worldwide.
No, DVD's are not "old" tech, not yet anyways. Apple is simply doing away with a competitor to the iTunes store, plain and simple.
Well, I don't need external drives, I want everything inside my Mac, so I need enough storage.
I'm running a 15" non retina with 250GB SSD and 750GB HDD... But if I had to choose between 128GB flash or 500GB mechanical, I'd choose for the more storage.
They could always add the fusion drive option to the MBP but I don't think they will as the prices of large capacity flash memory is finally starting to fall.
I have a 2009 2.8GHz 17" Macbook Pro and it is heavy, that is the problem I have with it. The screen size is nice though. Would have been cool if Apple brought out a 17" Macbook Air.
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SSD prices, even those that are specially designed for the Macbook Pro retina, are getting cheaper every year.
It's $100 to go from 4GB of RAM to 8GB. Not unreasonable.
At first I bristled at the soldered RAM in the rMBP's. I used to save every penny by buying third party RAM. But Apple's prices for RAM have at least come way down. And the benefits of the rMBP form factor came to outweigh the lack of upgradeability, at least for me.
eh? so you should max out a machine or vote to allow for upgradeable/replaceable drives?
You may not , but there are a fair few people who find it easier to carry around just a laptop without external hard disk plus cable.
Agreed. It'll be interesting to see what Apple does when UHD starts to become more mainstream. I can't imagine downloading a 20GB film from iTunes and even if you did you wouldn't get many films on a 128GB iPad. I'm still downloading SD content because the HD content takes ages to download and just fill up your hard dive in no time.
If the financials were right I can see Apple doing a Netflix in the near future and moving across to a subscription/streaming model. They could even give it away free with an iPhone contract like some others do.