Yeah, this is probably the best option. There's no legitimate reason to have one as a kid.
I do know people whose parents gave them phones but always GPS-tracked them cause they were worried.
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Apple's Messages Communication Safety Feature for Kids Expanding to the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand
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I do know people whose parents gave them phones but always GPS-tracked them cause they were worried.
Eh? Where are you getting this rubbish from? Probably the same sources that say The City of Birmingham is a Muslim state, ?
Good point made.
What is the point of this only for iMessage?
And what is there to stop them from scanning for something else next?
Would this be next?
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FOR THE LOVE O‘ JESUS, WILL SOMEONE GIT THAT BEAR SOME UNDERPANTS!
Lookit him, sittin’ thar, all suggestive like …
Kids though?
Or adults who simply answer on iMessage because you started a conversation there or maybe you don’t have WhatsApp (I assume you are from the US since you stated „I know people in the UK) and it’s the only way to contact you. So many scenarios
So restrictive that they enabled a feature so you’d get a warning message if you received a nude over iMessage. Yes, the horror.
No?… which one would that be?
Magazines don‘t force themselves on you, or stalk, harass or try to groom you.
This is just pure speculation, and the usual “if anyone disagrees with me they are X”. Since you say “history will be the judge” why not just a) sell all your Apple devices and b) wait and see if you’re eventually right. In the meantime you don’t have to spend time fear mongering on forums. Win win.
Really Apple, so you think putting up a warning of potential nudity will stop a child from clicking 'do you want to continue?' or words to that affect. They are children for goodness sake, they do not care about such things.
There is so much child protection in the world right now but yet children are still able to access adult material, why? because there are too many parents who just do not give a damn. It is wrong of child advocate groups telling governments they must pressure companies to do more to protect children. Just when exactly are these child advocate groups going to start targeting parents and focus on the problem ones? There is only so much companies can do and it is wrong in my opinion to keep on saying 'you can do more, you can do more', when the focus should be on the parents.
I've seen it happen within my own network of relatives. The parent having a bad day, the child wants to play games or watch video's on the mobile phone but the phone keeps having child safety messages appear every so often. The child calls out to mum and/or dad complaining there is something wrong with the phone. Not wanting to keep on being disturbed by their child, the parent unlocks the child safety features so they will stop being bugged by their child so they can get some quiet time due to a bad/stressful day. There is no way tech companes can protect against that. There has to be cooperation from the parents to make child safety features work. People can't keep putting everything on tech companies saying 'it's your responsibility to protect children', it's just wrong. It is about time more pressure was put on parents because lets face it, it is them who decided to have children and thus it is them who have the ultimate repsonsibility in protecting them.
There is so much child protection in the world right now but yet children are still able to access adult material, why? because there are too many parents who just do not give a damn. It is wrong of child advocate groups telling governments they must pressure companies to do more to protect children. Just when exactly are these child advocate groups going to start targeting parents and focus on the problem ones? There is only so much companies can do and it is wrong in my opinion to keep on saying 'you can do more, you can do more', when the focus should be on the parents.
I've seen it happen within my own network of relatives. The parent having a bad day, the child wants to play games or watch video's on the mobile phone but the phone keeps having child safety messages appear every so often. The child calls out to mum and/or dad complaining there is something wrong with the phone. Not wanting to keep on being disturbed by their child, the parent unlocks the child safety features so they will stop being bugged by their child so they can get some quiet time due to a bad/stressful day. There is no way tech companes can protect against that. There has to be cooperation from the parents to make child safety features work. People can't keep putting everything on tech companies saying 'it's your responsibility to protect children', it's just wrong. It is about time more pressure was put on parents because lets face it, it is them who decided to have children and thus it is them who have the ultimate repsonsibility in protecting them.
I live in the UK and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about?
I was born in the 90's and we had fairly well structured sex / health education in school, and nothing was taboo about it. If I needed condoms, I would ask the school nurse for some. If I had a question about something, there were appropriate channels where it could be asked and answered. On the whole, the subject was open to discussion - far from the taboo claim you are making. By the time I was active, I was well informed enough to be confident and safe going about it.
The only way sex would be viewed as a crime here is if someone was actually committing a crime.
To be fair you’re talking about a country in which they’re about to make it a literal criminal offence for looking at someone for a bit too long on a bus 😳
Guilty! But for the wrong reasons. I was on the train one time, daydreaming and staring blankly into space with my mind on a different planet. Before I knew it, some bloke was shouting at me for staring at him. He nearly gave me a thump.
Unfortunately too many parents are using tablets and phones to babysit / distract their kids. Books, games and televisions were used before tablets and phones came into most households. Different times...
LOL. FWIW, for a period of time my mother worked in counter-terrorism and counter-espionage and my father worked in military-intelligence (complete with alias) and they never seemed to know what I was up to as a kid. It is a miracle I am alive.
Yes, totally different times. It used to be a case of 'you face the conequences of your own actions'. Now it's a case of 'the consequences of your actions are the fault of others'. Todays society looks to put the blame on others rather than deal with source of the problem, in this case parents.
Before the days of the internet and todays technological society, adult related things was kept out of the reach of children either by shop owners or by parents. Adult pornography was restricted to sex shops that were hidden away. Adult reading and visual material was kept on the 'top shelves', out of the reach of children. Sexual aids and other sex related items had to be personally asked for which was kept under the shelf in the pharmacy. It was not easy for children to get access to adult related material unless shop owners sold it to them or parents bought it and gave it to them. When the internet started to gain traction, having yes/no to the 'are you 18 or over' question on adult websites worked because adults were the ones in control of the home computers. As the internet and technology advanced, parents started to lose sight of their child protection responsibilites because it was becoming increasingly common for people to put the blame on others for their failings.
Even today, if a child does wrong or does something they shouldn't do, child advocate groups, children charities, child welfare groups immediately jump to the defence of the child and blame the school, the shop owners, the local council, tech companies, the police, the local doctor. It always everbodies else's fault except the parents and the child.
Only a change in the mindset of todays society will makes things go the way they should go because otherwise it will always be as it is now, let's blame someone else for our failings/shortcomings.
It's one thing when a young person is ready, inquisitive about sex, and initiates looking for information – which is natural. It is another thing if some married middle-aged sleaze-bag sends your 12-y.o. kid a d*** pic. This is about whether the person receiving the picture wants to see it (and whether kids should be sending revealing pictures to others). Providing warning makes sense to me. I can imagine many adult dating apps might institute something similar, for the principle of informed consent when receiving picture holds for adults as well. I agree that opposing any sexual content simply because it is sexual is a bit rich coming from older adult generations that learned about the birds and the bees from Playboy, Penthouse, etc. and VHS, but the issue is not sex per se. It is about receiving unwanted upsetting content and whether kids are mature enough to understand the consequences of sending a picture of themselves out into the web.
I oppose Apple's CSAM-scanning idea at many levels, but this security feature is optional and sensible.
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I don't agree with this at all.
To start off with, it's clear that what Apple is aiming to do is to protect children from grooming. By censoring the image in iMessage, giving them a warning, and alerting the parents, the parents can be given the tools to stop whoever is preying on their child. Unless we have evidence otherwise, it wouldn't be the fault of the parents, and it's definitely NOT the child's fault they are being targeted by a creep.
Furthermore, it's also important to know that there's a massive difference between a curious kid Googling about more mature subjects and a creep sending them explicit images. Especially in the US, where a lot of adults are keen on gutting out sex ed, kids end up in bad situations because they do not know they are being groomed or they do not know about safe sex. Again, not the kids' fault that they were born in a country that opposes science based sex education.
Finally, it's sadly all to common for parents to work a ton of hours. You can't even blame the parents for this one, it's not rando parent's fault that the cost of living is super high and pay is very low. Parents being absent from kid's lives is a common reality.
The fact is, it's not the kid's fault and for some things not even the parent's fault. Sometimes, the system is what is failing families.
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Or they were seeing what the rest of the world was doing, and just didn't think what your were doing was even worth bringing up, in comparison.
You have just proved the point in my post about the way people in todays society think, it is always somebody elses fault, always somebody else to blame.
It does not matter if a parent works 60, 80 or more hours, they chose to have a child/children and therefore child protection and child welfare is the sole responsibility of the parents. As technology advances and improves it is the responsibility of the parent to make sure they are up to date with the familiarity and operation of technology that their child/children will use and as a result it is the responsibility of the parent(s) to make sure sufficent and adequate child safety and protection methods are installed or initiated. Desktop computers, laptops, tablets, mobile phones, they all have login/password and security features and functions that can enabled/activated/set up by the parent. It takes time and it takes knowledge of the device they are wanting to set child safety features and functions on but unfortunately far too many parents either do not care, do not give a damn or just cannot be bothered to set the devices and machines up properly so their child is protected when they use said device.
The system is not failing families, it is families failing themselves.
I'll never accept the idea that a child is at fault for being targeted by creeps. What I am pointing out is that the school system should have science based sex eduction to help kids and parents. We need better handling on known creeps so children aren't victimized as often. And even if a parent was to work by your lofty standards while working multiple jobs or long hours, there are cases of parents doing things "right" and the kid still gets victimized.
The ultimate blame goes onto the creep, followed by the system that allowed them to slip through the cracks, followed by the educational system not giving the victim the knowledge to understand what is going on, followed by the community not following through when someone speaks out.
Point is, if I was a parent and I heard what you are saying, blaming me for my kid getting hurt, I'd be furious.
... until the parents brought those items home. Many adolescents in my neighbourhood found their parents' stash of porn (but honestly the parents bought these magazines to read the lifestyle articles, right?). Things are perhaps not as different today as you seem to believe.
I absolutely agree that parents should take an active role in trying to shape their kids' values and behaviours and that entails taking an effort to understand the technology available to the kids. However, there are scumbags out there that actively try to get around families' defences, so you have to be careful about blaming either the parents or the kids when that happens.
Exactly. it's like people who don't want to wear seatbelts and think they should be eliminated, who cite some obscure person who they don't actually know who survived a crash due to a rare combination of circumstances that made wearing a seatbelt advantageous where a large percentage of road deaths would be eliminated with seatbelt use.
This is how slippery slopes start: Begin with something that sounds reasonable, then expand it to include all sorts of things no one had thought of before.
Over time this feature has the potential to enforce Twitter-style censorship on private conversations. Whether or not Apple chooses to go there remains to be seen.
Over time this feature has the potential to enforce Twitter-style censorship on private conversations. Whether or not Apple chooses to go there remains to be seen.
This.
Furthermore, all of this treatment has allowed woman to do whatever they want and then put the blame on the others. For example, it's very common for a girl to go out with a group of guys for partying, of course, they would drink and do drugs and then have sex. Then the girl complains she's been raped or something similar either because she doesn't want to look sinful in any way in front of any institution she might be a part of or in front of her family. Of course, there are cases in which she and her family might be looking for compensation or whatever. But, in such case, the society will never question the case and will always say that it is the guys who did wrong. What is a girl doing in an all-men group and what her expectations are in that situation? Society has given an enormous power to women to act in whatever way they want and everybody can become a criminal if a woman decides so. This is the behaviour that Apple is encouraging with features like this one and it literally puts every one in danger. Because you never know who stays on the other side of the line. It might be a young girl who pretends to be older and, upon receiving nude content, their parents might take actions against the sender, even tho it is clear that, in this case, the girl is the one who has misled the person she is chatting with and the one who has to be taken responsible for her behaviour. It never happens tho!
People are very wrong if they think that school-age children don't exchange nudes or don't ask for such material either from other students or older people. This feature will mean that the person sending them will be blamed in the society, because, when the parent see that their kid has received such a photo, they will immediately blame the sender, rather than asking their kid if they have requested it (and even if they did, the chances of the kid saying "no" is very big, exactly because, at the moment, the society teaches children that sex is bad and sinful).
All of these restrictions and this way of thinking have resulted in much more harm and have helped nobody. It is extremely worrying that people, in general, think that all this is normal.
Probably varies by area - the legality - as a foster care resource I found out that is one of the big “NO!” In my State.
Not saying parents always follow the law …