iPhone 13 Pro Max Charging question for max battery health

[HalfFullmoon]

What do you mean with "trickle charging"? Sorry, i'm not a native speaker
In your 2nd automation why do you have 2

Trickle charging is when the phone maintains a certain charge level. For example, with optimized charging, the phone keeps charging until 80%, and if it goes under 80% while plugged in to the power cord, it charges it back to 80%. So, the phone is always charging the battery, little by little. Kind of like snacking.

The second automation is just a fail safe, in case it didn’t turn off with the first one.

 

[Jutah]

Trickle charging is when the phone maintains a certain charge level. For example, with optimized charging, the phone keeps charging until 80%, and if it goes under 80% while plugged in to the power cord, it charges it back to 80%. So, the phone is always charging the battery, little by little. Kind of like snacking.

The second automation is just a fail safe, in case it didn’t turn off with the first one.

Oh si k, I got the point.
I never thought about the trickle but yes, it keeps maintaing that level for many hours.

Probably it’s better than go straight to 100 and stay there all night long but that’s not the best.

 

[Taz Mangus]

Oh si k, I got the point.
I never thought about the trickle but yes, it keeps maintaing that level for many hours.

Probably it’s better than go straight to 100 and stay there all night long but that’s not the best.

It is better for the battery to not constantly be charging to 100%. Optimized charging maintains 80% trickle charging for 2 hours and then slow charges from 80% to 100%. And if the phone is still on the charger after that, the phone is trickled charged. The idea is to not have the battery constantly on the charger at 100%.

 

[Jutah]

just check my wife's phone and... ready?

13 pro
75 cycle
full charge capacity: 3197
design capacity: 3095

more than 100mAh available after 4 months!!!!



Her strategy? charge overnight with a 20w and charge randomly when needed.

Mine:
13Pro Max
23 cycle
full charge capacity: 4419
design capacity: 4352

My strategy? very complex automation to stay in the 20/80 window.

She definitely won 😅🤦‍♂️

 

[Taz Mangus]

just check my wife's phone and... ready?

13 pro
75 cycle
full charge capacity: 3197
design capacity: 3095

more than 100mAh available after 4 months!!!!



Her strategy? charge overnight with a 20w and charge randomly when needed.

Mine:
13Pro Max
23 cycle
full charge capacity: 4419
design capacity: 4352

My strategy? very complex automation to stay in the 20/80 window.

She definitely won ??‍♂️

What was the full charge capability when you first got the phones?

 

[Jutah]

What was the full charge capability when you first got the phones?

here you are. It changes day by day but now the trend seems to going down... what do you think?

 

[OhMyMy]

here you are. It changes day by day but now the trend seems to going down... what do you think?

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I think the 80/20 play doesn’t have as much impact on the battery health as one might think. It’s aggregate of factors and not just the wattage and 80/20.

 

[now i see it]

I think her battery was better out of the factory than yours.
Mountains and mountains of data from every researcher who’s become involved with lithium ion battery charging clearly point to the fact that full charging is detrimental to a lithium ion battery.
Every electric vehicle manufacturer concurs as well. Yes even Elon Musk too.

 

[OhMyMy]

I think her battery was better out of the factory than yours.
Mountains and mountains of data from every researcher who’s become involved with lithium ion battery charging clearly point to the fact that full charging is detrimental to a lithium ion battery.
Every electric vehicle manufacturer concurs as well. Yes even Elon Musk too.

EV manufacturers do it primarily for an entirely different reason.

 

[Jutah]

I think her battery was better out of the factory than yours.

that's for sure!
i'll keeop an eye oh her battery consumption in the next days because i have no hostory.. but damn, 100mah+ after 75 cycles means that the battery was at least 200mah+ out of the factory

 

[OhMyMy]

that's for sure!
i'll keeop an eye oh her battery consumption in the next days because i have no hostory.. but damn, 100mah+ after 75 cycles means that the battery was at least 200mah+ out of the factory

That would place her battery at close to 110% which is practically unheard of. Doesn’t seem plausible.

 

[Jutah]

That would place her battery at close to 110% which is practically unheard of. Doesn’t seem plausible.

dunno. Girl power probably. Her phone are always better than mine (battery, screen, etc...). I'm a bit upset LOL

 

[Jutah]

it has start working properly, or so it seems (2 nights in a row).

Would like to thank @now i see it @Taz Mangus @nmeed for your support and patience in the explanation. Appreciate it!

PS: with a 5w charger it takes 1.4h to go from 49% to 82%

 

[Jutah]

Hi Guys, here again

I created another automation that notify a specific status (battery level at 25%) to my apple watch, cool! Is there a way to have a similar notification with other apple devices? Airpods, i.e.

I found this on the internet but probablu ity's a 3rd party app.

 

[dobrewski_77]

Hi guys! I've made a thread earlier today, however now one replied and give feedback. I have had my 13 Pro for about 1 month and today I noticed that my BH is already at 99%. My charging habits are pretty simple - charging with Apple's original 20W charger while I'm at home and using the 5W charger at the office. Never run out of battery below 20% and tried to maintain the 20-80 strategy.

According to Coconut, here are my battery stats:

Full Charge Capacity: 3071 mAh
Cycle count: 25

Is that something to worry about? I'm not seeing any difference in the phone's battery performance at all. Getting about 2 and half days of usage. Any tips on how I can maintain good long-term battery health? Thanks a lot!

 

[now i see it]

Any tips

Don’t look at the battery health report for at least a year. I’m serious. Your battery and phone are brand new.

 

[Jutah]

Hi guys! I've made a thread earlier today, however now one replied and give feedback. I have had my 13 Pro for about 1 month and today I noticed that my BH is already at 99%. My charging habits are pretty simple - charging with Apple's original 20W charger while I'm at home and using the 5W charger at the office. Never run out of battery below 20% and tried to maintain the 20-80 strategy.

According to Coconut, here are my battery stats:

Full Charge Capacity: 3071 mAh
Cycle count: 25

Is that something to worry about? I'm not seeing any difference in the phone's battery performance at all. Getting about 2 and half days of usage. Any tips on how I can maintain good long-term battery health? Thanks a lot!

nothing to worry about.
As long as you follow the 20/80 strategy you're doing the best you can for your battery.

Even if i'm pretty OCD about the battery, i have to admit that the battery status on the iphone - as the mAh coconut shows you - are very very weak numbers, not solid at all.

Remember that your iphone is eligible for a free battery replacement when the level go under the 80% within 2years.

 

[Shadowbech]

for all you guys that use automations to stop at around 80%, have you disabled the optimized charge option?
@Taz Mangus @now i see it @BugeyeSTI

No for me I still have it on regardless but I guess I can turn it off since it’s no use for me as I have set my automation to turn off the smart plug when battery reaches 80%.

 

[OhMyMy]

Hi guys! I've made a thread earlier today, however now one replied and give feedback. I have had my 13 Pro for about 1 month and today I noticed that my BH is already at 99%. My charging habits are pretty simple - charging with Apple's original 20W charger while I'm at home and using the 5W charger at the office. Never run out of battery below 20% and tried to maintain the 20-80 strategy.

According to Coconut, here are my battery stats:

Full Charge Capacity: 3071 mAh
Cycle count: 25

Is that something to worry about? I'm not seeing any difference in the phone's battery performance at all. Getting about 2 and half days of usage. Any tips on how I can maintain good long-term battery health? Thanks a lot!

The only two things I’d advise for you is don’t let it fall below 20% and avoid scenarios that produce excess heat like fast charging with a case on or playing high intensity games while charging. Also don’t leave your iPhone in a hot car in the summer. Besides that nothing else you do would have a significant impact.
You don’t have to worry about purchasing a smart plug for this alone and just enjoy your iPhone. It’s just easier to just use that money towards a new battery down the lane.

It’s well worth the peace of mind to have one less thing to think about every day.

 

[Jutah]

Hi Guys, i pop up the thread to ask for help again.
My Smart Plug is driving me nuts.

After 2 months with zero problems, now it happens that sometimes the automation cannot be completed because the iphone can't connect to the Smart Plug.

After a little investigation i understand it is related to the network i'm connected: if on 2,4 it works, if it's on 5.0 it doesn't.

Well, the weird thing is that it has always been controlled by my iphone connected to the 5.0!

Another weird thing: when it shows the error, i switch my wifi connection to 2,4 and i am able to control the Plug. If i reboot the router, connect to the 5.0 i'm able again to control the plug

Any idea of what's going on?

 

[HalfFullmoon]

Hi Guys, i pop up the thread to ask for help again.
My Smart Plug is getting me nuts.

After 2 months with zero problems, now it happens that sometimes the automation cannot be completed because the iphone can't connect to the Smart Plug.

After a little investigation i understand it is related to the network i'm connected: if on 2,4 it works, if it's on 5.0 it doesn't.

Well, the weird thing is that it has always been controlled by my iphone connected to the 5.0!

Another weird thing: when it shows the error, i switch my wifi connection to 2,4 and i am able to control the Plug. If i reboot the router, connect to the 5.0 i'm able again to control the plug

Any idea of what's going on?

Delete the Shortcut routine and add it back again. Make sure you can disconnect and turn on the plug from your phone. If that doesn’t work, then reset smart plug and add it back to Home again.

 

[Jutah]

Delete the Shortcut routine and add it back again. Make sure you can disconnect and turn on the plug from your phone. If that doesn’t work, then reset smart plug and add it back to Home again.

thank you very much for the answer.
I'll try.

 

[reppans]

After 2 months with zero problems, now it happens that sometimes the automation cannot be completed because the iphone can't connect to the Smart Plug.

Any idea of what's going on?

If it’s failing when the screen is locked, might try adding a scripting ‘wait 4sec’ (even two in a row) between the battery-trigger, and the smartplug-off actions.

In my experience, a locked screen = intermittent wifi connection. The battery-trigger wakes the screen and 2x wait provides time for wifi to reestablish before executing the smartplug-off action.

One other tip is to commence charging just before waking - ie, let the batt sit idle overnight at low voltage.

 

[HalfFullmoon]

If it’s failing when the screen is locked, might try adding a scripting ‘wait 4sec’ (even two in a row) between the battery-trigger, and the smartplug-off actions.

In my experience, a locked screen = intermittent wifi connection. The battery-trigger wakes the screen and 2x wait provides time for wifi to reestablish before executing the smartplug-off action.

One other tip is to commence charging just before waking - ie, let the batt sit idle overnight at low voltage.

Good advise. For me, I just deleted the shortcut automation and added it again, which seems to have fixed the issue. If it happens again, I will add the wait command. Thanks.

 

[Jutah]

Hi Guys! what's your current situation? I had a boost after the last iOS upgrande, but after a couple of week it went back to rnormal. 4month device.