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EU Gives Final Approval to Law That Will Force iPhone to Switch to USB-C
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The old headlight units are cheaper, so they lobby the US govt to not change the standards. Cheaper to pay off the govt than to switch the lights.
USB is superior to lightning, no question about it, but this legislation strikes me as very odd. Do they legislate that all lamps us the same type of lightbulb? Is there a fine for incorrect sliced bread thickness? Do all doors have the same handle and mechanism? I understand things like fuel nozzle standards because there is a consumer safety concern, but mandates like this seem strange even if technically advantageous.
Name just one company that releases completely bug free operating system software
Apple should just add a non-functional usb-c port next to the lightning port. Job done.
Everyone keeps focusing on the iPhone, but there are so many things out there still using micro UBS, which a much bigger deal
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I wish Apple had moved to USB-C on its own to the iPhones long time ago.
If you study how these standard bodies work, you'll see that the process is often slow and bureaucratic, filled with politics, and it's very hard to estimate what the final result will be.
If you don't know when a new standard will be ready or what will it be, how do you design products that often have 1.5-2 year production life cycles to make use of them?
I only have one question. What will Apple do? Will they make the next phone USB-C as “required “. Or will they do it “the Apple way”. It’s been rumored for some time that Apple wants to remove all contacts to the phone. Will they still do that? Will they in effect tell the EC to F off? It’s going to be interesting to say the least.
I’m sure Apple will almost miss your business.
Please come back and let us all know the flawless company you find that puts out software with no bugs. We may all jump ship.
How would that be any different to what we have now? We already have a 10 year old port. Worst case scenario… At least in 10 years we will have a 15 year old port instead of a 20 year old one.
Nothing more than probably an update to the legislation.
This is the reason why the policy doesn't address wireless charging asit has not yet been harmonised across devices unlike USB-C that seems to be the go to for many devices.
Do you have a better alternative to a first effort in harmonising this mess of e-waste for absurd corporate profit?
So what is your solution in your view?
The fun thing about these kinds of rules is you won’t actually see the innovation they kill, because ‘this is illegal unless you submit it to an unpredictable multi-year bureaucratic approval process’ means projects will be abandoned at birth.
Hmmm. A narrowly crafted law to only affect one company, and a fix to a perceived problem that almost nobody was clamoring for. Where have I seen this before?
The practical implication of these rules in our household are that I will need to buy a lot more USB-C cables for the home, car, and holiday house.
A win for the environment? Hardly.
This is also a major setback for innovation, of which the EU seems to know preciously little.
A win for the environment? Hardly.
This is also a major setback for innovation, of which the EU seems to know preciously little.
im All for usb-c. Tired of carrying one extra cable just for iPhone. Yes, not much weight but clutter is a clutter.
Next PC I want to upgrade would have to also be USB-C PD charging as well to remove the need for barrel jackets.
and to anyone who believes this move will stifle the innovation, i‘d like to introduce you guys to 1970s till 1990s when every major computer company built computers that were incompatible with everyone else’s, and even within the same company, products were incompatible between generations. Now THAT is innovation.
Do you guys genuinely want Apple to release new products every year that is incompatible with previous generation products, including charging cables, for the sake of “innovation”?
Next PC I want to upgrade would have to also be USB-C PD charging as well to remove the need for barrel jackets.
and to anyone who believes this move will stifle the innovation, i‘d like to introduce you guys to 1970s till 1990s when every major computer company built computers that were incompatible with everyone else’s, and even within the same company, products were incompatible between generations. Now THAT is innovation.
Do you guys genuinely want Apple to release new products every year that is incompatible with previous generation products, including charging cables, for the sake of “innovation”?
That's already included in the legislation, that newer standards can be easily incorporated.
Of course.
The amount of extreme governmental hate is strong in this thread, especially specifically targeting the EU. There must be a lot of americans in it I assume.
Pardon my ignorance, but don't several Apple products still use USB 2 controllers? Would love at least USB 3 speeds.
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GOV takes notice when single companies are dominating a space and pushing proprietary things for self-serving profit motivations. See many stories of monopoly or nearing monopoly entities flexing their dominance for self-serving motivations and GOV stepping in to deal with them (because no one else had enough power to do so). In this way, GOV is last resort.
You don't see this with lamp makers, car makers, bread makers, etc because there is robust competition in most manufacturing with no one lamp maker heavily dominating the space. Let a lamp maker come to dominate the space with a proprietary lamp socket that requires consumers to either pay up MORE for bulbs only from that entity or for other light bulb makers to pay a license fee to use the socket and GOV will likely have to step in to standardize light sockets too.
Basically, if growing, dominating companies don't get too greedy & self serving, GOV stays out of their hair. When companies start looking like they might be able to soon own the bulk of a market and are making moves that exploit that dominance, GOV often moves to take action to re-level a playing field in matters like this.
If you look back at history, you see this over and over. Generally consumers benefit when GOV pinches off the corporate exploitation of consumers through proprietary things that benefit a single entity.
"We" Apple people will gripe about this only until Apple either complies or goes wireless. We don't gripe that there is no Lightning in the other products where Apple is already USB-C. We don't call Apple out as wrong for voluntarily embracing USB-C in those other products (no GOV mandate required). It's only in this ONE product line where Apple still clings to Lightning that we "love" Lightning. As soon as Apple turns this page, we'll see Lightning like we see the 30-pin... or firewire 800, etc.
Until then, what Apple has for sale right now is absolutely right... and everything else is wrong. When Apple changes that, "we" change right with them... as if we never felt so passionately about the old option at all.
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That’s why I’m super curious to see the review of the new iPad Pro 12.9 6th Gen for someone to test their USB C port data transfer speed. Last year 5th Gen barely got like 500-600 MB/s which is RIDICULOUS SLOW for whatever they want call Thunderbol/USB 4 port!!!
