Here’s the thing. In your effort to show a 12 cent price difference versus 4 and 5 dollar differences, you failed to realize that those are not the same cables, one with lightning and the other USB-C. Though I understand the confusion since they both use the word ‘select’. The lightning cable uses a cheap PVC jacket, while the USB-C cable uses superior TPE. The USB-C cable is also spec’d for USB 3.0 while the lightning cable is 2.0. ‘B’ for effort, but that isn’t apples to apples.
Pretty much nobody among the common public cares about that sort of difference.
Nor are the “cheaper” lightning cables falling apart en-masse. In fact, other than the anecdotal situations posted by MR lightning cables seem to be durable. Of course, abusing them will cause premature failure…same as with usb-c.
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“Cheap cables” being low quality is an an over-generalization. One could say the same about cheap usb-c cables contributing to e-waste and not lending credence to the EUs argument. Using the same over-generalizations. Why do people complain that usb-c gets loose over a period of time.
In general, companies make mistakes. Those companies that learn from their mistakes, tend to move forward.(as a generalist statement) Apple has made some mistakes, but not enough so they didn’t get to $2T. Maybe the series 3 (of which I have no experience, so I’m relying on a genuine argument) could have been engineered better. But that doesn’t invalidate that Apple produces products and services that contribute to extraordinary revenue even though there are factions that disagree with the ceo, company, product engineering. Apple forged ahead jn spite of this type of critique.
The above is a personal attack as was some of the other replies of the same ilk. got it.
Rendering lightning cables useless will probably throw hundreds of millions of them into e-waste….exactly what the EU seeks to avoid. Cheap usb-c cables, according to your logic, must be as bad as cheap lightning cables.
I’ll let this “work of grandeur “ speak for itself.
Might want to go back and attempt a response to what was posted. To understand there is a potential for a lot of e-waste…should this come to pass. The conversation that lightning is inferior at the same price is a red-herring.
If you use one for 3 years, you will see it, especially Apple branded ones. It’s not a defect, but a result of statics sparking. This is due to the lightning port design. USB does not have this issue.
Keeping things clean with isopropyl occasionally stops that from happening. And not keeping the cable in damp places with the brick plugged in helps as well. That’s why I have all my original charging cables that the dog didn’t eat.
They don’t. Having a “competitive advantage” or “product differentiation“ would mean that the market is not perfectly competitive. This means consumers pay more, and said company would get economic profit, in additional to accounting profit.
I did. Over 300 posts ago.
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Lint can get into any port. I’ve had to clean out my lighting port before. If anything the lightning port allows for lint to get in easier since it’s completely open. The tab in the USB-C port would make in harder for lint to get into, though harder to clean out.Keeping things clean with isopropyl occasionally stops that from happening. And not keeping the cable in damp places with the brick plugged in helps as well. That’s why I have all my original charging cables that the dog didn’t eat.
Usb-c is not without issues:
Fixing a Loose USB-C Cable
I always imagined the USB-C cable to be the one cable with the universal shape that solved all my first world problems. Too many dark evenings of trial and errowww.thoughtworthy.info
Having hundreds of millions of cables hit the garbage dump Is not shortsighted thinking, it seems like a legitimate issue. You can rehash or not; makes no difference.I did. Over 300 posts ago.
EU Proposes to Force Apple to Switch iPhone, iPad, and AirPods From Lightning to USB-C
In the interim it will likely increase waste and costs. That's short-term thinking though. In the long-term it's quite advantageous on both of those counts to be able to charge all of your electronic devices with potentially a single cable/brick. In the future, people switching between Android...
You might be interested rehashing the same points over and over again, but I’m not. If you want you can reread through the thread as many times as you’d like. You can use the linked post as a starting point.
As a speculative statement I agree, as a fact about the longevity of each cable relative to its price. Good luck proving it. It’s the facts that count not the opinion.
Loose connections and easier breaking due to size of the protrusion or lint.
You don’t use each cable enough, because most people don’t share your experience. My family and friends are all Apple ecosystem users, and we all have lightning cable and port issues.
ah the “if you’d use the cables more you too would have the problem” response. LOL
Correct, a bunch of cables becoming waste isn’t a non-issue. What’s short-sighted is ignoring the long-term benefit of going from three types of port to one. It’s also important to recognize that not all lightning cables are going to suddenly become useless and thrown out when the legislation is enacted. Most people don’t upgrade their phones every year. Many of the existing cables will continue to be used over their typical life cycle.
Count yourself lucky, I’ve had several not inexpensive adapters go out on me.
The base level iPad still features lightning (although yeah, the vast majority are USB C now).
As the EU sinks into a 2nd class technological tier, absent of meaningful innovation with regulation that hampers, not supports innovation, sure. That will be an intended consequence of over-draconian regulation. In addition, this will cost consumers more as consumers now have to replace the cables they have lying around their houses and cars. Sounds like a win-win-win /s
My guess is Apple has another plan. But yeah, as iphones die out cables go into e-waste as new cables are purchased, this will cost consumers more.
Not lost any lightning cables to planned obsolescence or breaking or corrosion. One anecdotal story against another anecdotal story.
